I am one of those people who has been trying to get an HD Tivo at a good deal. I have been trying since October, ever since I heard about some people getting them for around 200 bucks after sme credits and other stuff. I have read almost every post I could find on this issue. And it seems like some people were able to get the deal, while many others like me were unable to. I know all the different tactics which I have tried but it seems like it depends on the retention rep you speak to. I though for a while that they were offering good deals way back and have pretty much stopped, but every now and then I read about someone else getting a good deal. I think that one of the major reasons I am not getting the deal is because I have been a customer for less then a year, actually Jan 22nd will be 1 year exactly. Most of the people who have been getting the deals seem to be DTV customers for many years. However, until recently my average monthly bill was around 180 bucks. Had total choice premiere, NBA League Pass, MLB Extra Innings, and watched a lot of PPV movies and I never missed a payment. I figured this would work in my favor but it doesn’t seem to matter. In response I severely reduced my programming moving down to Total Choice Plus with HBO, and not renewing my NBA League Pass. I don’t understand why they won’t give me the deal. They keep offering me the HD Tivo for 549 bucks with a hundred dollar rebate and some other credits but basically 400-450 bucks out of my pocket. I am now wondering what will happen with this new lease program that DTV is moving to? Does everyone think that they will drop the price? Will they offer it for something more reasonable like 200 bucks or 300 bucks with a rebate or soething. This is sort of what Dish Network does with their HD DVR 942 and will be doing with the upcoming 622, it basically cost about 300 bucks to lease it. Will DTV do something similar, I know there was some info about their new plan on another post but I am wondering whats gonna happen with this HD Tivo? Finally, I don’t understand why they don’t give me some deal. I’m getting so tired of the bs I get everytime I call from the retention reps. They keep pushing that bull about offering 1,500 HD channels which is so misleading and they tell me that in the long run cable will cost me more. That is just bs, sure there is a monthly fee of about 15 bucks for the cable HD DVR but that’s a huge difference than 400 bucks all upfront. I don’t understand why the general price of the HD Tivo is so high. I understand they have to recoup some costs but aren’t they making their offering very uncompetitive, especially compared to cable. Why not hold on to customers, instead of driving them away, especially since this HD Tivo will be obsolete in the near future. Plus they want a two year commitment, give me a break!!!!