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Dual Buffers

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Que, Aug 17, 2006.

Dual Buffers

  1. A must have!

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  2. Don't really care about it.

    94.1%
  3. Like the option but, Ok if it's not there.

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  1. dennisj00

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    Doug, I'd like to shake your hand! This is the FIRST positive response or acknowledgement of a potential problem / fix that I've seen on almost all responses from anyone with a link to dTV.

    It seems everyone has to defend DTv's position.
     
  2. Drew2k

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    Doug - I've deleted programs from the playlist while a program was still recording and it never affected the live buffer. I could go back to live TV and rewind still, up to a full 90 minutes.
     
  3. elyshaeagle

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    As the wife of a DTV Dbstalk member I spend many hours with a split screen on my TV reading countless comments and discussions about various features existing and in the works. I have to admit that I felt I finally had to chime in from a non "expert" point of view. ( although I probably know more than the average joe) I simply cannot believe that DTV didn't think that DLB was that important to it's HR20 customers. Obviously someone who would desire and operate a machine that can be networked with your home would also desire a technology so simple that even our comcast receiver offers it for their customers. If you ask someone on the street what DLB is they don't know, but if you describe what it is they want it or have it. Frankly, to me , DLB is one of the top features of a dvr, and why DTV has dropped the ball on this is beyond me, especially when I have seen posts where people were told that DTV was working on ways to implement DLB, then no its not because of reasons that would become apparent. Well what are the reasons? If all of the time spent developing all of the little things (not VOD) had been spent on DLB, I guarantee few would even care about the little things. I love DTV and the HR20 but I think DTV is underestimating or underrealizing the desire for DLB.:D
     
  4. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    I have not tested this .. We may have a difference in national release vs. CE (which is now staggered release, BTW). Version 0x1EA and beyond function MUCH better with respect to the workaround than version 0x1BE does .. although the latter was very much usable ..

    Let's just say that the later firmware releases are closer to being right now and, in my book, that's headed in the right direction.
     
  5. Drew2k

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    This was well before this CE release that I had done this ... Most of my viewing is time-shifted 20 minutes from live, with me going to the Playlist to watch programs so I can skip the you-know-whats. I've been doing this for a very long time, and it was the first CE release that promised no loss of buffer that I started noticing that I can still rewind the live buffer even after deleting a program from the playlist while it still was recording. That is at least a month for the CE that introduced this...
     
  6. MarauderFH

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    I'm not sure why people rage against what would be a feature - much less support the decision not to include it, as its clearly a good feature, and would be optional.

    Also, Earl, your rebuttal:

    We simply want the feature. Bottom line - I'm not sure you can really tell someone they don't actually want what they do unless you are acting as the post implied. It seems clear that this is a hot topic, and the reason for probably 90% of the traffic to this site.

    I'm also not sure why you threaten to "close the thread" so often - it just appears as if you know DTV is making a poor decision here, and you don't want to argue about it... isn't this debate 101? Anyway, I'm not sure most of your visitors would care if you do lock it - just the regulars.
     
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    This is DBS Talk, not DLB Talk.
    One would hope that the topics would be more diverse! :D

    But at least we got a good "smilie" out of the debate -
    :beatdeadhorse:
     
  8. Milominderbinder2

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    Dennis, I am the guy who wrote the workaround. I am not following what you are saying.

    Help me understand.

    - Craig

    - Craig
     
  9. Jhon69

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    Hey Tom!.If we solve the riddle do we win a cookie?.:D
     
  10. jahgreen

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    Fortunately, nobody exaggerates when DLB is concerned.
     
  11. Steve

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    Ya. It can't be more than 85%. :lol: /steve
     
  12. Oblong Desoto

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    Well, this topic brought me here to post for the first time. :D

    As a fairly long time DirecTV user, I currently have three SD DVRs. We purchased our first HDTV back in November, and I was really looking forward to the HD DVR upgrade until I found out about this missing feature.

    Under these circumstances I am very reluctant to get an HR2x unless I can skip the 2 year agreement. I like having the option to get out without penalty if the competition (who already has DLB for HD) gets their content up to par. In the mean time, I'll put up with the pillarbox just to keep DLB in the living room.

    I am truly baffled. When has removing a popular feature from a product ever made customers happier? If they would at least tell us why, maybe I would feel differently about it.

    BTW - great forums!

    -OD
     
  13. Steve

    Steve Well-Known Member

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    :welcome_s to the forums! /steve
     
  14. Mike Bertelson

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    :welcome_s Welcome to the forum.

    I doubt you can get out of the commitment...but hey, take a shot.

    I feel your pain. I sorely miss DLB.

    I do feel you should give the HR2x a shot on the new HDTV. My 2cents.:)

    Mike
     
  15. Lord Vader

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    Welcome, Steven, and remember to always show deference to a Sith Lord.
     
  16. tyrant

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    Call me another bandwagon jumper... but this topic also just got me to register.
    I just upgraded from two SD DTV Tivos to HR21s... I actually came here to find out what I was doing wrong with the dual buffer feature...figuring I just didn't know how to use the remote yet...and was SHOCKED, SHOCKED I say, to learn that the feature is not there.
    Very, Very, Very disappointed.
     
  17. Oblong Desoto

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    Thanks for all the welcomes!

    Yeah, maybe after the primaries and caucuses wrap up. DLB is super handy for watching the returns come in.

    Then again, there may not be much need for a DVR after that unless the WGA situation gets resolved. :ramblinon

    -OD
     
  18. James Long

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    About a shocked you were to find out that the OTA tuner on your receiver was an add-on? :)
     
  19. oenophile

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    This topic was one of the reasons I first started poking around here. (That and eSata.)
     
  20. tyrant

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    well, I'm cool without the OTA since I haven't used that nor really miss it anymore.

    If I could get the audio sync and the dual-buffer thing corrected... I'd be a happy camper.
     
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