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Dual Buffers

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Que, Aug 17, 2006.

Dual Buffers

  1. A must have!

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  2. Don't really care about it.

    94.1%
  3. Like the option but, Ok if it's not there.

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  1. boltjames

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    D* doesn't want you flipping channels when you should be watching more commercials. Savvy?

    DLB is a commercial killer, and that means less revenue for D* when it's time to negotiate ad rates. Additionally, they have their hands full launching new HD channels, they apparently have a SLB issue to contend with, and they don't need to provide this feature to make more profits.

    There's no reason to add this feature as it doesn't help D* at all. They're not losing even a slight fraction of the user base, they're not going to get any ROI off this supposed enhancement, and Mr. & Mrs. America didn't use the damned thing on their HR10's anyway. When you all get that through your heads, we can close this awful thread and focus on more important issues.

    BJ
     
  2. Lord Vader

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    TIVO was more dependent on advertising than D* was or ever will be, yet TIVO had DLB. It's not an awful thread. If you don't like it, don't come here and pretend to tell everyone else how to think.
     
  3. Drew2k

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    Incorrect. By adding dual-buffer swap functionality, DIRECTV will provide an easy upgrade path for anyone currently using DLB on a DVR such as a TiVo. Two years from now when the HD playing field is leveled and a customer has a choice between Comcast/TiVo with DLB and DIRECTV without it, there's your reason that DIRECTV should add DLB functionality.



    But they may gain users faster by offering DLB - users who have it won't be "giving it up" by coming to DIRECTV's HR20/HR21 DVRs.



    They gain user satisfaction from those who have sorely missed DLB and promote and build loyalty from that same group of customers. When their commitment period ends and that customer chooses to remain with DIRECTV, there's your ROI.



    Really? Or is that just your opinion?



    "We" like this thread so "we" don't need to see it closed. "We" suggest, once again, that "you" skip over any thread you have no interest in or that you deem of little importance. :)
     
  4. ShiningBengal

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    Well said! For a person who claims not to care about DLB, BJ sure spends a lot of time "trolling" here. What is it about him that won't let go?
     
  5. Lord Vader

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    Delusions of grandeur, it seems.
     
  6. Mike Bertelson

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    If it's really that distasteful why do you keep reading and posting?

    You've been accused of being a troll on a few other forums and now I'm begining to think they were all correct. You are a troll!

    If you don't like this "awful thread" quit reading it.

    Mike
     
  7. jaywdetroit

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    What's the latest on DLB?

    I've been off working, getting divorced and all that fun stuff. Life is just now starting to settle down (a little).
     
  8. boltjames

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    I am not a troll. What I am is a passionate fan of the HR20, one who for a long time was prejudiced against it by the HR10 zealots.

    And the reason for the prejudice? Yup, DLB. Over in that other forum, not a kind word about the HR20 at all. Just misinformation all around and lots of DLB whining.

    Takes me months of research and questions to cut through the propoganda and find out that the HR20 is good. So I get brave, I ditch the HR10, pick up the HR20 and find that it's a terrific machine. I go back to let the others know that there is life after the HR10 and WHAM! nothing but a face full of DLB-this, DLB-that, "it's not a Tivo" this, "your HR20 won't record shows" that.

    So, seeing this ridiculous DLB sticky atop the HR20 board bothers me. It's a reminder of the people who whined and complained so much on the other board, and I feel it's not something good for the DBS community. Someone on the fence about D* or the HR20/21 lands here to get some information and WHAM! there's the massively repetitive sticky with the massive post count, spreading sadness, confusion, and misinformation around yet again.

    While I understand that this minor thing means a lot to a small fraction of you, I think that for the better good of the tens of thousands of newbs that are going to land here now that D* has scores of new channels, and for the better good of the future of the DBS community, this thread should be shut down. It's overdue. Everyone gets your point. I'm sure D* knows that a few of you want this. Enough. It's a festering pimple on the nose of this forum. Sticks out like the sore thumb it is. Draws too much attention to something minor and something whiney. Not positive. Too negative. Unfortunate. Overplayed. Overdue.

    BJ
     
  9. Drew2k

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    /ignore
     
  10. n3ntj

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    Yeah, do we have any updates? Is D* looking into incorporating this into HR 20's?
     
  11. marcmec

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    Hmm, 77% say that it is a must have. I think that is a large fraction.
     
  12. Lord Vader

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    And it's hardly "minor"!
     
  13. ShiningBengal

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    I guess you should be a moderator, then, since you are passionaltely anti-DLB "for the benefit" of the "DLB community?" Perhaps you should send out a few PM's to the current moderators to see if they can't put you in charge of something.

    Sir, with all due respect, everyone gets your point! Why don't you take your soapbox to another "community" so they can benefit from your insights? Unless you have something new to contribute, what is the point of your continued flames here?

    /ignore
     
  14. Milominderbinder2

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    If DIRECTV would just let PREV work so that you could go between two recordings like the manual says, we could have a decent work-around...

    What was the advantage of not letting PREV toggle between Recordings?

    Why?

    - Craig
     
  15. tschwenke

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    I have had my HR20 for a week and while I loved my HR10, I really only have one huge complaint, we all know what it is...

    But, I was able to do this yesterday, record both shows and use PREV to go between, but then you need to go vote in the SLB thread as well. As you can not pause and go back.

    It is very frustrating...
     
  16. Knon2000

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    You know what was fustrating? Yesterday, I decided to hook one of my HR10's back into my main hometheator setup, mainly so I could have 4 tuners to watch football with. Well, to make a long story short, the HR10 froze up on me. The HR20 doesn't have DLB (for me, really not a big deal EXCEPT for watching football) kept on ticking, but the HR10 froze :(
    So, I had to do a reboot on it, losing the buffer anyway.
    It did work fine after that though.
    Moral of story, don't think everything will be perfect once/if we get DLB, because something else can/will still happen.
     
  17. tiger2005

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    This might be one of the most immature posts I've ever read on a message board.

    Also, +1 on the delusions of grandeur statement. Someone obviously thinks they know more than the mods and now needs to 'police' this thread. Seriously, get a life and grow-up. :nono2:
     
  18. beer_geek

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    Which would you prefer:

    One "bothersome" thread at the top

    --OR--​

    A large quantity of threads started by the "tens of thousands of newbs that are going to land here" because they can't get to the other tuner on their new HR2x they got to go with their new flat panel display they got on black Friday?


    There you have it. The needs of the many (those who do not want the board cluttered with multiple DLB threads) easily outweigh the needs of the one person who is "bothered" by a "ridiculous DLB sticky" (you).
     
  19. Boiler_81

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    DLB is a big deal to me and my family. We just moved from SD DirecTv TIVO and this is the feature we miss the most.
     
  20. markman07

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    My wife was using the main HD TV yesterday to watch her now 9-1 Packers. Most times I am there with her. So she has the HR20 on the Packers game. Wants to switch to other games while there is a commercial. She yells up to me (watching another game on another tv) why doesn't the tuner switch when I press down on the remote pad.

    Like I am going to try to explain to her how the two tuners work on an HR 20! And then I am going to try to explain how the WORK AROUND works ! NOT.
    Enough excuses .. lets make this happen. Come on 77+ pages.

    --
    My fix --- Push the TIVO button on our Harmony remote to switch over to the HR10-250 which we still have and use with this same TV. Problem solved. Next year is where the big problem comes in..no Sunday ticket viewable on the HR10.
     
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