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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dfd, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I suggested the OP might have dumped the live buffer into a recording.

    While I'm not going to run this test so long that it gets to the rebooting stage:

    I turned on my HR34, and it was tuned to an OTA channel.
    I removed the coax from the dish.
    I got a message that it had lost connection to the dish.
    OTA keeps playing, "but" the nasty message keeps showing.
    I've pulled up a recording and don't have any problem. There aren't any messages showing.

    "I imagine" the main problems the OP had were:

    1. loss of signal for an extended time.
    2. using the live buffer at a time it might not have been the best choice.
    Loss of signal during storms have been a problem for years, but if the receiver doesn't lose power, recordings have been able to be play for some time.
    It still looks [here] like this is the case.

    The "odd thing" here is after stopping the recording, the loss of connection message, is no longer there, and I full live buffer off of my OTA channel as if there was no problem with the coax being disconnected. :shrug:
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    Hard to say/know exactly what happened without being there.
    "I think" the default is to reboot, but the user can defer to a later time. "The problem is" it keeps coming back and if you don't stay on top of "the nasty gram", it bites you in the butt.
     
  3. Rich

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    I will tell you that I have taken HRs with me on vacations and they've never rebooted once. And watched recorded content all week without a problem. Must be the AM-21 that's causing the problem. What else could it be? But we're both being logical...

    Rich
     
  4. James Long

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    Perhaps a difference in programming between how to handle a lost signal and how to handle a lost connection?

    A better test of a "snowed out" situation would be to block signals reaching the LNBs.
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    Since I have recordings currently going on, masking the LNB wasn't on my agenda.
    From what I did see, the error messages come during "live TV", so even with OTA, using the live buffer isn't the best choice in marginal conditions.

    I had a heavy storm come through a few days back.
    I had a recording going on, but was watching the same program in the buffer. The loss of signal kept popping up and there isn't a way to get these messages to clear.
    These same messages don't seem to show if you're watching a recording.
     
  6. Laxguy

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    Could not the reboot have been caused by some other thing, such as a very brief power outage, and been merely coincidental??
     
  7. Jan 1, 2013 #107 of 150
    Richierich

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    I never watch a Game or Golf via Live TV. I wait 30 minutes to an hour and then start watching the Recording so I can be in control. I can 30 second skip thru commercials which I hate to watch especially since so many repeat themselves forever.

    Also, I would get a Dish Heater and be done with it.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2013 #108 of 150
    Rich

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    True, I always see the that message when turning on the HR when I'm on vacation, but I've never seen that message while playing recorded content. During a storm, no matter how bad it is, I've never seen a loss of signal message while watching recorded content.

    Rich
     
  9. Jan 1, 2013 #109 of 150
    Rich

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    The TS didn't mention anything like that. He said the HR kept telling him it was gonna reboot. Since I've never used an antenna, I've never had an AM-21, but that seems as if it's the logical source of the problem.

    With all the HRs I've gone thru, wouldn't you think I would have seen at least one say it was gonna reboot? My laptop tells me it's gonna reboot from time to time to install new updates, but I've never seen a message such as that on an HR. Seems like he had some sort of "Perfect Storm" experience.

    Rich
     
  10. Jan 1, 2013 #110 of 150
    Rich

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    Obviously, I'll never understand why folks watch live TV when they've got DVRs.

    I'd have some kind of professional install the heater. Jobs you don't do regularly are usually best left to guys who do those jobs for a living. And I'd make sure I saw his insurance policy before I let him climb up and do anything.

    Rich
     
  11. Jan 1, 2013 #111 of 150
    Richierich

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    EXACTLY!!!

    I can't stand Commercials so I start the Recordings and go putz around in the yard or whatever and then come back 30-45 minutes later and start watching the Recording and then a commercial comes up and I skip and I am a Happy Guy!!!

    One of the reasons you have a DVR it to Record and Watch!!! :D
     
  12. Jan 1, 2013 #112 of 150
    TBlazer07

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    You obviously haven't been around here much. If you had been you'd recognize the pattern. :hurah::lol::grin:
     
  13. Jan 1, 2013 #113 of 150
    Richierich

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    And just what is the Pattern??? :D
     
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    hdtvfan0001

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    The Urban Myth that there is a pattern. ;)
     
  15. Jan 2, 2013 #115 of 150
    hancox

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    Hogwash. I would argue that hooking up OTA in the first place, despite D*'s ongoing design flaws with the implementation, is "taking responsibility for their own situation," when it comes to DBS signal loss. You just can't put your pom poms down enough to admit it.
     
  16. Jan 2, 2013 #116 of 150
    joed32

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    I watch THE game on one TV and RedZone on another so it just wouldn't be possible to delay the game as I will see anything important that happens on RZ.
     
  17. Jan 2, 2013 #117 of 150
    dfd

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    Should I have been recording? Yes.

    Should the box be as polite as my doctor? He warns me before he violates me.

    If the box had just left me alone and not tried to fix a problem I knew it couldn't fix I wouldn't have been so mad.

    The sun came out the next day, as I knew it would, warmed the dish and all was well.

    BTW - after the reboot I could watch shows recorded from sat without problems but I could not watch shows recorded off of my antenna so even if I had been recording the game the box still would have F'd me.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2013 #118 of 150
    Rich

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    I was just wondering this morning where you've been... :lol:

    Rich
     
  19. Jan 2, 2013 #119 of 150
    Rich

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    Glad the recorded content still played as it should. So, it all goes back to the antenna screwing the works up? This is the first instance of such a thing happening that I've read about. Still don't get why the HR wanted to reboot.

    Which model of the HR20s do you have? Only two, the 20-700 and the 20-100.

    Rich
     
  20. Jan 2, 2013 #120 of 150
    hdtvfan0001

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    !rolling

    Forgive me...I'm cracking up at how that was explained...not the issue itself.
     

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