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Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mark Lamutt, Mar 18, 2005.
Please use this thread for discussion of the DVR-942 review.
Thanks for the in-depth review....a labor of love I can see.
I few comments and observations.....
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but........ I still don't see the 942 as a reason to get rid of my 921. Unlike most reading this, I have NOT had many problems with my 921.
The ONLY thing (for me at least) that the 942 has me jealous for is the ability to view all of our PVR'd programs from our upstairs bedroom. Even this ability comes with headaches though since it would require a THIRD coax to be run BACK from the 942 to our upstairs bedroom. (The first two were a bitch enough as it was.....). Also, I do NOT currently have ANY of my receivers connected to a phone outlet and I really don't want to since there are no convienent outlets near my TV's. (Anyone know if the phone outlet in a power strip would work?)
As far as some of your "down" sides to the 942 go....
Two of them are currently deal-breakers for me:
NO Analog viewing....unacceptable
NO changing of aspect ratio....reminds me of my 811 when I first got it...ANNOYING!!!
Hope you enjoy your new toy!!!
Quick question, it was probably in the review, but I'm a visual/kinesthetic guy so mainly just read the pictures.
So is the only thing that's widscreen on TV1 is the program guide? Meaning will all the menus etc still have black sidebars on TV1?
Yes I would find the no changing of aspect ratios to be a pain.
Overall well written review Mark.
I did not see this in the review, but how does the 942 handle a 4 x 3 HDTV? One of the things I like about my VOOM box is it can output in native resolution so the SD shows take up the entire screen, while the HD stuff is nicely letterboxed.
BFG - all menus are widescreen. There are no black bars on TV1.
Scott - The 942 has the 4x3#1 and 4x3#2 settings like the 6000, for the 4x3 HDTVs that have vertical compression and the ones that don't. Do they work? I have no idea...my HDTV is 16x9. When I watch SD programming in SD on TV2 (connected to a SD input on my HDTV), I use the 4x3#2 setting so that the output is framed correctly for me to use my TV's stretch modes.
Yeah, how these receivers handle variable input formats really needs to be fixed, and thus far nobody's done it to my liking yet.
As I suggested before for the 921, I'd like to see a simple menu going through the four standard formats (1080, 720, 480p and 480i) and for each, offer an option on what the prefered output mode should be to TV1.
Thus for my 4x3 TV with HDTV compatability, I could select 1080 and 720 to output in 1080 mode (my sony doesn't support 720), and 480p and 480i to always output in 480p mode. With such a simple menu setting, I'd never have to toggle any mode settings ever.
One other question, how hard is it to switch from SIngle to Dual mode?
I am thinking of putting TV 2 in my baby's room this way he can watch his Noggin shows in there and when he comes in our room can continue watching up there. (And at night after hes sleeping I can switch it back to single mode so all my shows record with both tuners)
Danny - that's one of the feature requests that I've already asked for.
Scott - you have to press the Mode button on the front of the receiver. You can't make the change with the remotes (yet).
The review stated that single vs dual mode can only be changed on the front panel of the machine
So why exactly didn't they do the internal ota tuner split? Is it because of places like Denver that have low power, that would cut the signal in half? I think I read your analogy on that before.
Bryan - "because it's a satellite receiver with OTA capability, not an OTA receiver with satellite capability" was very close to the answer that I've heard...
I'm going to be offline most of the rest of the night, so go ahead and post your questions, and I'll get them answered as soon as I can. I've asked most of them myself, and have most of the answers.
I put a lot of effort into this review (more than 100 hours of writing). If you take the time to read it all, I think that you'll find that I've anticipated most of the questions that you'll ask.
Thank you very much Mark for the detailed review. Is the buffer still 2 hours? Sorry if I missed it in the review.
hdmi only, but you can convert that with a cable.
Well seeing as I have read sooo many people that do not want the 942, maybe they will make it up north here sooner so I can get one for my BEV system
This is by far the best and most detailed review I have ever seen for a DBS product. Way to go Mark.
How about someone write one up for the new 625 due out the same time. It has different software code than the 522, there are differences, some are major. Any one seen one yet so they can write something up.
Mark can you write one up on the 625 also please?
I wish that one could switch the user mode with the remote. I dont get why they did not make that possible on the 322, 522, and the 942 from the getgo.
1. Does it do what I call "Browse Plus" like the 522 does, meaning can you browse across the whole guide or are you limited to current and next programs? (sec 3.1.1)
2. How many timers can you have? (sec 3.2.7)
cclement - the buffer is one hour for each tuner, and no they can't be combined.
BobJ2004 - I know very little about the 625, and won't be getting one, so it'd be tough to do a review on it. I thought that it was exactly the same code as the 522, though, except with VOD enabled. What else is different?
Bobabird - I can go forward in Browse all the way to the end of the guide. I assume that's what you mean by "Browse Plus"? There is a timer limit, but I haven't hit it yet. Once you start throwing Dish Passes into the mix, it starts getting difficult determining how many timers you actually have set at any given time. I think it's something on the order of 250 or so, but I'll try to find out.
Excellent review Mark. Hey, I thought you were going to bed.............
Anyway, I must say that it looks like E* is going to keep using the 322/522 UI. What I saw in your review was basically a 522 with the HD added on. While it's a nice interface, I still like my 721's better. I'm willing to bet that they are still using Linux as well. I'm also willing to bet that the OS is stored in NVRAM since it boots up so fast. Kinda like it is in the last state mode of a laptop sleep. While it does have some neat features, I think I'll still look forward to eventually obtaining the 921 since I do not have a home phone and haven't had once since 1997. Hopefully, they will manage to fix most of the 921's problems and make it much more stable.