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DVR died... thinking of doing some upgrades...

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by CHaynes112, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Winters,...
    Replies might best be directed to the thread that dudester started here.
     
  2. CHaynes112

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    No, it is unrelated to that. The unit tries to boot, but gets stuck at Checking Receiver for hours. Then finally it starts the detailed diagnostics and fails at Hard Disk and gives an error code.
     
  3. Laxguy

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    Winters,...
    Was suggesting only that dudester's issues be confined to the thread he started.

    You are focussed on upgrading, no?
     
  4. HarleyD

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    You would need a SWM system that does the networking over the coax cable. Either a SWM enabled LNB on your dish or connect a non SWM LNB to a SWM8 (or SWM16) multiswitch.

    You would also need a Cinema Connection Kit if you wanted the be able to stream On Demand, view Youtube, use Pandora, basically any internet specific functions.
     
  5. HarleyD

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    I can second this. I have four HR2X DVRs on a SWM system with Whole Home enabled and I can honestly say I don't miss not having an HR34. I have eight tuners with recording capability and the content is shared across all of my SWM connected boxes. The only negative is I cannot kick off a recording on a remote DVR. I can only start a recording on the box in the room where I am sitting but so far that hasn't been a problem. I have series links spread out all across the Living Room, Family Room and two bedrooms.

    I still have three legacy receivers that I am probably going to upgrade to H2X boxes just to get the whole system on Whole Home where all recordings are available on all sets. The only thing really holding me back is that two of those legacy units are R10 DirecTivos connected to SD sets in the kitchen and the dining room and I don't want to lose the trick play. My wife is the Queen of "what did they say" and I am constantly rewinding live TV and turning up the volume so she can catch what she missed.

    If I upgrade those R10s to H2X boxes I will gain Whole Home capability but lose trick play. I'm not entirely sure which is more valuable to our viewing habits.
     
  6. damondlt

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    Put me down as agree.:)
     
  7. dudester

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    Iwas not try to hijack the op thread for answers to my own if thats what your getting at. Mine went out and so did his , i just mentioned what i i found and maybe it was the same and he might want to give it a shot and see if he could get his going. I noticed we both had the same model.
     
  8. Richierich

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    Yes, I have been extremely Happy with mine so Go For It!!! :)
     
  9. acer

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    The name Genie sounds nice but for some setups it can actually be a downgrade.
    With the Genie, the HD-DVR "streams" the video to the C31 clients. If the HD-DVR stops working so do the clients, if the HD-DVR has 5 shows recorded on it then the clients can't watch TV until one of the 5 shows is deleted. They came out with it to compete against the Hopper, but they already had the Whole Home to compete against the Hopper. The only neat part is the recording 5 shows at once and if you have a Samsung RVU TV, then you can use the Genie HD-DVR on the Samsungs without having a receiver and avoid the additional 6$ monthly fees. If you are not interested in recording 5 shows at once or do not need a mini receiver for your current setup (like if your TV hangs on the wall) or do not have a RVU Tv then it is pointless imho.
     
  10. dpeters11

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    Hopefully that was just a typo. It would be an issue if all tuners were currently in use, not because 5 shows had been recorded.

    It all depends on what someone wants. The C31 isn't the only box it works with. It has some benefits over receivers, some downsides.
     
  11. HarleyD

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    I acctually wanted an HR34 when they first came out but DirecTV was not and is not willing to offer me a deal on one, even though I was well out of contract. Full price for the receiver plus SWM and WHDVR installation before they would send it out...it was going to cost me in the neighborhood of $600.

    Long story short, I bought the SWM and DECA hardware privately for much less and DirecTV sent me one HDDVR for free and charged me $99 for another so for about $200 I added 4 tuners with WHDVR instead of $600 for 5 tuners.

    In retrospect I believe I am actually happier with this setup than I would have been with the HR34...not that it is a bad unit, but for much less money I gained more than enough recording capability (it's just my wife and I) and ended up with one more room with live TV trick play than the HR34 upgrade would have gotten me.

    The HR34 by all accounts is a great unit but it isn't the be all and end all or the "ultimate" piece of technology for DirecTV subscribers. In fact it may not even be the best option at all.
     
  12. dpeters11

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    Very true. We had two DVR's and it was enough tuners for us, but I got tired of managing separate series links. If there had been a unified management, I may not have gone with the 34. Though I did also want to get newer hardware, and knew that the 34 was the only one I'd be interested in that would be guaranteed.
     
  13. HarleyD

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    Good point.

    In my case my series links require very little management, especially spread out across multiple DVRs. It pretty much "set it and forget it". Heck, I know we still have some series links in the Living Room and Family Room for shows that were cancelled two years ago. :)

    The 50 link ceiling isn't an issue for us. Priority has not been a problem either.

    I think once or twice maybe we got a priority confilct warning that we were able to address before a recording we wanted failed to happen. That's over many years.

    But then that's us and our viewing habits.
     
  14. inkahauts

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    You can still watch a tuner that is also recording, just can't change to a different channel without canceling a recording. Not deleting it. Also clients can do double play and trickplay on live tvs, something you can't do with a h25 etc.

    In a house with one hr2x and three h25s you only gain by going to the genie system, which is likely the standard Whole Home Service install for the vast majority of people.

    Not to mention, it works as a regular hr and gives you five tuners so you can always use it with other hr2xs and such, which means you gain more tuners to record and more but in hard drive space. There are just so many advantages no matter how you work your setup.
     
  15. inkahauts

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    Just to clarify, Actually a genie system gets you full trickplay at every TV, as well as full access to one series manager and so on. However, they didn't actually have genie clients when the HR34 first came out, but they have them now.
     
  16. acer

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    again, I would like to clarify with the genie if the hr-34 stops working and the only other rooms are clients, you are screwed as you can't watch directv in your house until the hr-34 is replaced. that for me makes me not even want the genie setup.

    and yes, earlier that was a typo. meant if 5 tuners are being used not 5 shows. that baby has a 1 terabyte hard drive the amount of shows doesn't matter. oops.
     
  17. acer

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    you're right. I got customers that swapped it out with their whole home setup, complaining that it was a downgrade for them. if you don't care about recording 5 shows at once, the 1tb hard drive which most customers will never ever use all at once, don't care about having smaller receivers like if you have tvs hanging on the wall, and have whole home setup, there is no point in you getting a genie other than you thinking it must be better as the name sounds cool :-/.
     
  18. Rent_Share

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    I have Three DVR;s HR20/HR21/HR23 Just set up as Whole Home - Need to upgrade DSR708 to an HD Signal

    Since non of the connected DVR;s can select something to record on the other DVRs I assumed that net working an HD Receiver would only allow:

    • Watching live TV
      Watching a program selected and recorded on one of the other three DVRs

    This is the first place I have been able to confirm that you can select a program to record using an HR21,22,23,23 (20 and 25 have no Ethernet ports)

    I am shopping on FleaBay

    PS: Yes my HR20 needs to be replaced, It was having intermittent storage issues which could not be replicated with the diagnostics when the technician was at the house for a free Service Call for Satellite Alignment
     
  19. inkahauts

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    I just completely disagree. At a bare minimum, if you need to upgrade a single DVR, I see zero reason to get anything other than a genie, other than possibly cost. Even if you keep your other DVRs and such, a genie swapped for any one single unit in a house over a regular two tuner DVR is a no brainier to me.

    If your current system has five tuners total or less, and at most two DVRs, then a genie is more versatile and never a downgrade. Period. The only way it could possibly be a downgrade is if you have three DVRs or more, (and if its only three DVRs, that's still debatable then) and like I said, no reason you can't just replace one DVR with a genie DVR, not your entire system with a genie only system.
     
  20. inkahauts

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    A h20 is not Whole Home Service compatible at all. A h25 is, even though it has no Ethernet port. Its not needed because it uses deca. Its also the fastest box they have in general.

    And just to be clear, while it will let you set a recording, you can not access to do lists, series manager, etc from it. Just set a recording to happen.
     

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