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Echostar 14 - At 119 and in service 5/19 at 3:00am ET

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by bluegras, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. Mar 29, 2010 #81 of 433
    P Smith

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    Name			ECHOSTAR 14
    NORAD #			36499
    COSPAR designator	2010-010-A  
    Epoch (UTC)		2010-03-29 05:04:13
    Orbit # at Epoch	13
    Inclination		0.063
    RA of A. Node		298.564
    Eccentricity		0.0001520
    Argument of Perigee	315.228
    Revs per day		1.00342241
    Period			23h 55m 05s (1435.8 min)
    Semi-major axis		42 145 km
    Perigee x Apogee	35 760 x 35 773 km
    BStar (drag term)	0.000000000 1/ER
    Mean anomaly		229.769
    Propagation model	SDP4
    Element number / age	18 / 0 day(s)
    
    Lon			138.8605° W
    Lat			0.0070° N
    Alt (km)		35 760.600
    
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     #   Date Time GMT Perigee  Apogee Long        Lat       Inclin    Gap  Chg-Hrs [/B]    
    014 03-26 13:25:00 25,121 x 35,780 80.0152°W   2.9182°S  2.915° 10,659
    015 03-27 18:34:07 35 760 x 35 787 139.2960°W  0.0045°S  0.072      27  +29H
    016 03-28 05:48:33 35 759 x 35 774 139.1033°W  0.0061°N  0.072      15  +11H
    017 03-28 12:59:49 35 760 x 35 773 139.1061°W  0.0086°N  0.063      13  +7H
    018 03-29 05:04:13 35 760 x 35 773 138.8605°W  0.0070°N  0.063      13  +17H
    
     
  2. Mar 29, 2010 #82 of 433
    harsh

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    #19 (hint: the number before the last digit on line 1)
    ECHOSTAR 14
    1 36499U 10010A 10088.47003958 .00000081 00000-0 00000+0 0 197
    2 36499 000.0601 302.1570 0001581 303.3912 331.4901 01.00340634 130
     
  3. Mar 29, 2010 #83 of 433
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    Is this the modern day version of train spotting?
     
  4. Mar 29, 2010 #84 of 433
    P Smith

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    Thank you for your kind of appreciation.

    Now, please, join us at D12 thread. I'm sure you will find it entertaining and pleasurable.
     
  5. Mar 29, 2010 #85 of 433
    P Smith

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    Name			ECHOSTAR 14
    NORAD #	36499
    COSPAR designator	2010-010-A  
    Epoch (UTC)		2010-03-29 11:16:51
    Orbit # at Epoch	13
    Inclination		0.060
    RA of A. Node		302.157
    Eccentricity		0.0001581
    Argument of Perigee	303.391
    Revs per day		1.00340634
    Period			23h 55m 06s (1435.10 min)
    Semi-major axis		42 145 km
    Perigee x Apogee	35 761 x 35 774 km
    BStar (drag term)	0.000000000 1/ER
    Mean anomaly		331.490
    Propagation model	SDP4
    Element number / age	19 / 0 day(s)
    
    Lon			138.8421°W
    Lat			0.0205°N
    Alt (km)		35 762.850
    
    [B]
     #   Date Time GMT Perigee  Apogee Long        Lat       Inclin    Gap  Chg-Hrs [/B]    
    014 03-26 13:25:00 25,121 x 35,780 80.0152°W   2.9182°S  2.915° 10,659
    015 03-27 18:34:07 35 760 x 35 787 139.2960°W  0.0045°S  0.072      27  +29H
    016 03-28 05:48:33 35 759 x 35 774 139.1033°W  0.0061°N  0.072      15  +11H
    017 03-28 12:59:49 35 760 x 35 773 139.1061°W  0.0086°N  0.063      13   +7H
    018 03-29 05:04:13 35 760 x 35 773 138.8605°W  0.0070°N  0.063      13  +17H
    019 03-29 11:16:51 35 761 x 35 774 138.8421°W  0.0205°N  0.060      13   +6H
    
    
     
  6. Mar 29, 2010 #86 of 433
    P Smith

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    Launch: 03-20 18:27 GMT.
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     #   Date Time GMT Perigee  Apogee Long        Lat       Inclin    Gap  Chg-Hrs [/B]    
    002 03-21 09:05:55  3 062 x 35 785 178.6943°W  21.6484°S  26.725°  32,723
    ...
    004 03-22 21:36:00  7 655 x 35 793  21.6153°W   8.2609°N  15.520°  28,138
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    014 03-26 13:25:00 25 121 x 35 780  80.0152°W   2.9182°S   2.915°  10,659
    015 03-27 18:34:07 35 760 x 35 787 139.2960°W   0.0045°S   0.072°      27  +29H
    016 03-28 05:48:33 35 759 x 35 774 139.1033°W   0.0061°N   0.072°      15  +11H
    017 03-28 12:59:49 35 760 x 35 773 139.1061°W   0.0086°N   0.063°      13   +7H
    018 03-29 05:04:13 35 760 x 35 773 138.8605°W   0.0070°N   0.063°      13  +17H
    019 03-29 11:16:51 35 761 x 35 774 138.8421°W   0.0205°N   0.060°      13   +6H
    
     
  7. Mar 29, 2010 #87 of 433
    Christopher Gould

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    by using more fuel and possibly shorting its life or costing more to build and launch by being heavier
     
  8. Mar 29, 2010 #88 of 433
    P Smith

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    Oh, please ! Not same FUD here again.
    What do you exactly know about the satellite configuration ? Have you heard it was heaviest Proton't payload what did require modding it ?
    Or you paid by competitors for each such post? ;)

    BTW, the sat circling on graveyard orbit after 15 years service will outlast you and me.

    I bet you don't like such good start in dish business ? ;)
     
  9. Mar 29, 2010 #89 of 433
    James Long

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    To put it nicely, reaching it's orbital location is part of the design of the satellite and launch. Moving there quickly doesn't shorten the expected life when it is all part of the launch plan. Everything is still nominal.
     
  10. Mar 30, 2010 #90 of 433
    P Smith

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    I would change the title - or it allowed for DTV sats threads ? ;)
     
  11. Mar 30, 2010 #91 of 433
    harsh

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    While this argument is well used over in the DIRECTV threads, it doesn't apply to the SS/L FS-1300. The FS-1300 has a bipropellant travel system separate and apart from the ion powered station keeping system. The Boeing birds used their XIPS ion system for travel and station keeping.
     
  12. Mar 30, 2010 #92 of 433
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    Regardless, as I pointed out at the beginning of this thread, we know Charlie is not affraid of burning his sats into services ASAP. Last time after the failure of the AMC-14, they kicked that Canadian bird in gears in no time.

    Who cares what may happen 12 or 15 years from now? Will DISH still exist? Will DirecTV?:)
     
  13. Mar 30, 2010 #93 of 433
    harsh

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    Like many under-informed arguments, it is a Red Herring.
     
  14. Mar 30, 2010 #94 of 433
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    Launch: 03-20 18:27 GMT.
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     #   Date Time GMT Perigee  Apogee Long        Lat       Inclin    Gap  Chg-Hrs [/B]    
    002 03-21 09:05:55  3 062 x 35 785 178.6943°W  21.6484°S  26.725°  32,723
    ...
    004 03-22 21:36:00  7 655 x 35 793  21.6153°W   8.2609°N  15.520°  28,138
    ...
    014 03-26 13:25:00 25 121 x 35 780  80.0152°W   2.9182°S   2.915°  10,659
    015 03-27 18:34:07 35 760 x 35 787 139.2960°W   0.0045°S   0.072°      27  +29H
    016 03-28 05:48:33 35 759 x 35 774 139.1033°W   0.0061°N   0.072°      15  +11H
    017 03-28 12:59:49 35 760 x 35 773 139.1061°W   0.0086°N   0.063°      13   +7H
    018 03-29 05:04:13 35 760 x 35 773 138.8605°W   0.0070°N   0.063°      13  +17H
    019 03-29 11:16:51 35 761 x 35 774 138.8421°W   0.0205°N   0.060°      13   +6H
    020 03-30 03:39:30 35 760 x 35 773 138.5059°W   0.0252°N   0.058°      13  +17H
    
    
    As I see it, E14 parked at 138.5°W now - a season of sat-DXing for the satellite is open !
     
  15. Mar 30, 2010 #95 of 433
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    I had conducted some research on the weight of the E-14 satellite before there was an announcement of which launch vehicle it was going on. E-14 has a very large amount of propellant on board perhaps 2000 pounds more than any of the recent DirecTV satellites. I had speculated elsewhere that Dish did this in case there was another Proton/Breeze failure similar to one for AMC-14 which would still allow Dish to use E-14. Now with that extra propellant, Dish has the flexibility to move it quicker than they have with other satellites in the past.
     
  16. Mar 30, 2010 #96 of 433
    P Smith

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    That's interesting point - make it autonomous and substitute III stage of launching vehicle in case of failure. I would say they made it quick counting design/test time for such projects.
     
  17. Mar 30, 2010 #97 of 433
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    So E14 can be the Ferrari up there , eh ? :D
     
  18. Mar 30, 2010 #98 of 433
    James Long

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    The way DISH likes to shuffle the fleet, not a bad idea (although I expect it will stay where it is going until it nears the end of it's life).
     
  19. Mar 31, 2010 #99 of 433
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    Launch: 03-20 18:27 GMT.
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     #   Date Time GMT Perigee  Apogee Long        Lat       Inclin    Gap  Chg-Hrs [/B]    
    002 03-21 09:05:55  3 062 x 35 785 178.6943°W  21.6484°S  26.725°  32,723
    ...
    004 03-22 21:36:00  7 655 x 35 793  21.6153°W   8.2609°N  15.520°  28,138
    ...
    014 03-26 13:25:00 25 121 x 35 780  80.0152°W   2.9182°S   2.915°  10,659
    015 03-27 18:34:07 35 760 x 35 787 139.2960°W   0.0045°S   0.072°      27  +29H
    016 03-28 05:48:33 35 759 x 35 774 139.1033°W   0.0061°N   0.072°      15  +11H
    017 03-28 12:59:49 35 760 x 35 773 139.1061°W   0.0086°N   0.063°      13   +7H
    018 03-29 05:04:13 35 760 x 35 773 138.8605°W   0.0070°N   0.063°      13  +17H
    019 03-29 11:16:51 35 761 x 35 774 138.8421°W   0.0205°N   0.060°      13   +6H
    020 03-30 03:39:30 35 760 x 35 773 138.5059°W   0.0252°N   0.058°      13  +17H
    021 03-31 03:25:27 35 772 x 35 784 138.5659°W   0.0061°S   0.047       12  +24H
    
    Target: 35,786 km
    
     
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    Are you denying the fact that the Canadian bird was put in service in very very short time?
     

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