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EchoStar XI Ready to Fly in 2007

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Chris Blount, May 9, 2006.

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  1. May 9, 2006 #1 of 25
    Chris Blount

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    Sea Launch said it signed a contract with EchoStar for the launch of the EchoStar XI satellite in 2007.

    The flight will be Sea Launch's third mission with one of the DBS company's spacecraft, having launched EchoStar IX in August 2003 and EchoStar X in February 2006.

    EchoStar XI, being constructed by Space Systems/Loral, will have a Ku-Band payload that will provide service and additional capacity for EchoStar's DISH Network customers.

    Said Rob Peckham, interim president and general manager for Sea Launch, "This new contract serves to reinforce our long-term relationship with EchoStar and with Space Systems/Loral. We intend to follow through with another successful mission, responding to their confidence in our launch system and our team."

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  2. May 9, 2006 #2 of 25
    Smthkd

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    Is it just me or dose it not seem like E* is launching a lot of satellites!!?
     
  3. May 9, 2006 #3 of 25
    JohnH

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    Perhaps you. Seems to me they are getting behind in the need for replacements and launchs for the new licenses they have acquired. :)
     
  4. May 9, 2006 #4 of 25
    bcope9

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    Yeah, they need to replace E1-5.
     
  5. May 9, 2006 #5 of 25
    harsh

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    Given the design life of a satellite, they need to be lofting one every 18 months just to maintain existing capacity. With local HD taking up a much larger chunk of the pie, there is a decided need to up the bandwidth by a factor of about five to cover all of the SD markets with HD.
     
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    James Long

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    I'm suprised they have not announced a specific replacement for E1 and E2, the oldest birds. E3 is showing signs of stress, E4 failed, E5 is struggling and E6 was just taken out of service by E10. The design of E11 seems to be such that it can go anywhere (movable spots!). It looks like E11 is being lauched in anticipation of the next need.

    Ceil/E*'s new satellite will handle the need at 129°. 119°/110° seem to be OK with the three most recent satellites running there. There is a good chance that the next need will be 61.5° (since we are hearing of no problems at 148°).
     
  7. May 9, 2006 #7 of 25
    harsh

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    Wouldn't it make more sense to put it somewhere where it has a more CONUS view?
     
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    James Long

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    Fortunately E11 can go anywhere. Think of it as an emergency spare.

    There are plenty of satellites that will work in the 110-129 neighborhood. Not so many that can take to the wings. E* does not want to lose the wing bandwidth. They will keep something there.
     
  9. May 9, 2006 #9 of 25
    JohnH

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    And put what at 61.5?
     
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    Eastern locals.
     
  11. JohnH

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    Next time maybe I will know better. In a thread speculating on where satellites may go, someone pops in with a programming speculation. :)

    The question should have said, And put what satellite at 61.5?
     
  12. chelsea

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    Satellite technolgy has reached the point of what ever you want, it can do, but
    at a price. How good movable spots could work remains to be seen.
    I recall the pattern might be only perfect circles.
     
  13. James Long

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    Or ovals. Certainly not the assortment E* has on E10 (which is mostly ovals of varying sizes). They are probably planning as if the spots were fixed and allowing the 'movable' spot trick remain 'minor adjustments' to make the spotswork where they want.
     
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    I thought R1 was renamed E11 in some recent filings? I guess it was not renamed?
     
  15. James Long

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    E11 was named before R1 was purchased. IIRC E12 was the name used in the filings where R1 would have been appropriate, although I did not see those filings myself so I can't confirm or deny.
     
  16. alebowgm

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    Ok, my bad, so R1=E12... ???
     
  17. BoisePaul

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    The Dish Channel Chart no longer lists any channels on R1 - they've been relabeled as E*12 on the main Dish list. Perhaps TNGTony has seen something that confirms a change in name.
     
  18. P Smith

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    Since E* bought the satellite, they've mentioned it will be renamed to E*12, ie will pose it as full member of E* fleet.
     
  19. James Long

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    TNGTony's comment on the ekb was:
    3/21/06
    * Renamed all the "R1" listings "E*12" since Echostar officially renamed "Rainbow 1" "Echostar 12" in their latest filing. The satellite named Rainbow 1 at 61.5° was sold by Rainbow Media to Echostar some months ago.​
    E* 2005 Annual Report Page 121:
    EchoStar XII. EchoStar XII, previously known as Rainbow 1, currently operates at the 61.5 degree orbital location. This direct broadcast satellite, which was purchased in November 2005 from Rainbow DBS Co., a subsidiary of Cablevision Systems Corporation, was designed to provide all CONUS, all Spot Beam, or a mixture of CONUS and Spot Beam coverage. In the all CONUS configuration, the spacecraft can operate 13 transponders (26 TWTAs) at 270 watts per channel. In the all Spot Beam mode, the spacecraft can operate up to 22 spot beams using a combination of 135 and 65 watt TWTAs. We are currently using the payload in the all CONUS configuration.​
     
  20. harsh

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    Is there a need for more than two birds at 61.5?

    If you have something with configurable spots, it doesn't make sense to me to plant it 20 degrees out into the Atlantic Ocean when you could use it to back up the entire system by putting it somewhere more centrally located.
     
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