1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Employees involved in shoplifting fracas fired from Best Buy

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Richard King, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    3,134
    0
    Aug 15, 2002
    When I was in high school, I worked at a department store that always hired off duty police officers as their LP people. Kind of covered them on a lot of fronts.
     
  2. Greg Alsobrook

    Greg Alsobrook Lifetime Achiever

    10,453
    0
    Apr 1, 2007
    This is very true... But... If they have concealed merchandise, you can confront them at the door as they try to walk out...
     
  3. SayWhat?

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    6,259
    133
    Jun 6, 2009
    It's about insurance, Workman's Comp and risk management. Employee's injured on the job engaging in high risk activities raise costs for everyone. Policies are set in place to reduce risk. Violaters are terminated to show insurance companies that the policy is enforced thereby keeping rates lower.
     
  4. djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    4,343
    57
    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    The message is: "Be Sheep - The Wolves have won"

    When are people going to realize that expecting the police to *prevent* crime is like expecting a tow-truck to prevent an accident.

    When you let people get away, you make the cop's job that much more difficult as now they have to see if there's a trail to follow.

    Yes, there's risk in "getting involved" - no argument there. But does anyone remember the classic case of a woman in New York City who was murdered - screaming for help and being heard by dozens of neighbors but none of them called the cops because they "didn't want to get involved"?

    And if the reasoning is to "keep insurance rates down", well, it seems awfully convenient but rather inconsistent. Do they require their employees to give up fatty foods to keep health insurance premiums down? Probably not.

    I'm certainly not perfect at this. On the one hand, I interjected myself between my first wife and a person approaching us who could have been a threat (turned out to be a false alarm). On the other hand, my spine evaoprated over time when it came to dealing with my second wife (over the course of 19 years - thankfully I have it back now that she's moved out).

    Sometimes doing "What's Right" is not the same as doing "What's Proper".
     
  5. Zellio

    Zellio Icon

    643
    0
    Mar 8, 2009
    But you see, this is society for ya today. People expect government to take care of their children, get them jobs, do everything for them. Likewise, they don't want to protect themselves, they want police to do that for them.

    Our society has become full of useless fools who want everyone else to babysit them and their children.

    If the day a war broke out here they would all die on day 1.
     
  6. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    21,331
    0
    Mar 25, 2002
    http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=65485&catid=2

    More...
     
  7. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,572
    373
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Apparently, not if you work at Best Buy ;)

    It's good to know, though, that if I'm thinking of stealing something from Best Buy, and an employee tries to stop me... I can ask for a store manager to complain! :eek2:
     
  8. Movieman

    Movieman Hall Of Fame

    2,044
    0
    May 8, 2009
    When I worked in retail I would train my staff to alert the police and take no action. But in many cases they really had pride in what they did and if they took action to stop thieves I would let it go. It made me proud that my staff cared that much about their work environment.

    But in the case of the retailer I worked for and many others out there. These products are fully insured. They get back the full cost of the product. It is very sad though that a nation of people that fear taking action is being created. Hopefully, with enough courage policies like these will be revisited.

    But I do have to say that these guys did risk too much for someone like that.
     
  9. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    6,081
    45
    Mar 18, 2008
    There are just too many nut jobs and liability issues.

    People's opinion would be different if these guys started to restrain him and he pulled a gun and shot a person in the store to find out he was stealing a cd or a monster cable.

    It's all insured and there's nothing in the store worth someone's personal safety. That's the message. Store security's main job is to profile people and alert the authorities. They are there to give the appearance of security so that mostly honest people won't get the inclination to try. It's much like a lock on a house. It keeps honest people out not thieves.

    I don't think they should have been fired but I think them being moved from that department would have been a wise move if they were in that department.
     
  10. AntAltMike

    AntAltMike Hall Of Fame

    3,783
    107
    Nov 20, 2004
    College...
    It makes no sense for Best Buy to insure its store inventory against theft. It is a better deal for them to "self insure", since there is no overhead involved in doing so.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,572
    373
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    I fully understand all the legal liability and workman's comp tangles... so I understand why company policy would be "cooperate with robbers, don't confront"... and as such, I'd expect those employees to get a public reprimand and perhaps even a few days off work to reinforce the message.

    But I'd think privately they could be thanked for caring, and definitely not fired for caring.

    If they fire those employees, it is no wonder why employees at Best Buy often seem to not care about their job... that seems to be who the company seeks.
     
  12. Zellio

    Zellio Icon

    643
    0
    Mar 8, 2009
    Why work at best buy when you can run right out the door with more then 2 months paycheck?

    That is what is telling.
     
  13. djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    4,343
    57
    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Right. The stuff is fully insured, so you'll get the money back.. ...except that insurance companies aren't charities. Let them get away and you and EVERYONE else pays in the form of higher prices because of higher insurance premiums.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,572
    373
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Agree with the sarcasm!

    In fact... since it's insured, why bother calling police to report it? Why even have police? Just let the crimes happen, never catch anyone, and just file the insurance claim... :(
     
  15. Zellio

    Zellio Icon

    643
    0
    Mar 8, 2009
    Why sell things to people then? Just let people take it and file insurance claims.
     
  16. phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    14,941
    293
    Jan 18, 2007
    Northern...
    I knew there was a way to jump-start the consumer-based economy without folks having jobs.:sure:
     
  17. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    21,331
    0
    Mar 25, 2002
    You beat me to it. I think the solution has been found. Who needs to work when everything is free? ;)

    Up next: Cash for your refrigerator?
     
  18. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    21,331
    0
    Mar 25, 2002
    Book 'em
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/20493393/detail.html
    Suspected Best Buy Shoplifter Arrested
    More....
     
  19. AntAltMike

    AntAltMike Hall Of Fame

    3,783
    107
    Nov 20, 2004
    College...
    From the above linked update:

    See the problem? An employee wound up getting stabbed in the hand who was not one of the two who tried to physically stop the thief. It could have been worse.
     
  20. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    21,331
    0
    Mar 25, 2002
    I hope the employee who was stabbed sues the perp in civil court and destroys any thought this person had of a good financial future. Then again, anyone with thoughts of a good future financially wouldn't pull a weapon on someone. At least she could have the satisfaction of a big judgement against him.
     

Share This Page