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Enabling MRV using your home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, May 20, 2010.

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  1. Jun 25, 2010 #581 of 1195
    ghostbuster

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    My friend has 6 HR23's. If he added the MVR service would there be a playlist for the other 5 boxes on each box?
     
  2. Jun 25, 2010 #582 of 1195
    hasan

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    Yes, if he tells each box to share its content. (and he has all the MRV stuff (either a home network or SWM/DECA from D*))
     
  3. Jun 25, 2010 #583 of 1195
    jbn

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    Worked perfectly here. 17 mins between confirmation email of my request and DirecTV email confirming activation/add.
     
  4. Jun 25, 2010 #584 of 1195
    ghostbuster

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    He has SWM on a home network. DECA is going to cost money to install?

    if everyone else has no problems then it seems home network is fine
     
  5. Jun 25, 2010 #585 of 1195
    hasan

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    I would be concerned about future obsolescence, but other than that a properly functioning hard-wired network will do remarkably well. In my case, DECA was better (especially trick play smoothness), and I got a new dish (with better performance), all cables re-ended with better grade connectors, all the required DECA units, including the one needed for internet access, and the install for a grand total of $25.00.

    There was no way I was going to stay with my home network at that price.:)
     
  6. Jun 27, 2010 #586 of 1195
    hatchet

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    FWIW, I just followed this advice to the "T" and sent the email. I went for a swim and was gone for about two hours. I just came back, got a confirmation e-mail that Whole Home DVR Service was activated and it now shows up as "Currently Activated" under My Services whereas before it was not activated (call to enroll). I was also billed for it.

    To add to it, I just had D* installed yesterday and activated. Right now I only have my HR24 DVR connected to my home network via ethernet. The two H24's are not online yet (I need to pick up a Gigabit switch).

    Anyway, proof positive the e-mail route does in fact work :).
     
  7. Jun 28, 2010 #587 of 1195
    13lade

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    I dont think it was more than 5 minutes between email and activation! I've never seen DTV do something so efficiently :)

    I rarely post here, but read often.... so I just want to say that this site RULES when it comes to getting the best info on how to navigate DTV issues and technology! THANKS to all the guys who administer and contribute to the forums!
     
  8. Jun 28, 2010 #588 of 1195
    ghostbuster

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    That awesome. only 25 bucks. Must have been some serious butt kissing on the phone.
     
  9. Jun 28, 2010 #589 of 1195
    hatchet

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    Quick question...

    Has anyone experienced added "lag" in their home networks with MRV? I'm pretty sure it is my crap cable ISP but last night it was horrible while I was online trying to pay bills. I only have my HR24 connected via ethernet and it was on but idle. I wasn't downloading/recording anything on it.

    Anyway, was probably coincidence but I'm rated at 10MB downloads and I wasn't getting anywhere close to that on speedtest. The only "new" factor was the HR24 ethernet connection and MRV activation.

    I'll double check things tonight.
     
  10. Jun 28, 2010 #590 of 1195
    stel

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    so how does MRV work over the LAN? does it discover devices at layer2 or do you have to give it an IP address to connect to (layer3)? what if i had 2 separate systems on the LAN (in an apartment building with a LAN) and wanted my receiver to only see my other receivers and my neighbor to see only theirs? what speed does MRV need on the network? do i need DVR receivers for both the main (connected to antenna) receiver and the remote (on LAN only) receiver? i wish there was a good technical info page for MRV. i couldn't find one.
     
  11. Jun 29, 2010 #591 of 1195
    skidadesert79

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    I had a great chat with a CSR who had done these unsupported enablings many times. He ran into a problem with my account.

    He mentioned that I need two HD devices on my account and the R22, even with HD enabled, does not qualify as an HD device. He chuckled a little bit and mentioned he thought it should but the R22 is a strange box in the system.

    The computer does not reconize the R22 as a HD capable device so I can not have MRV turned on. The solution was to get another HD device on the account; HD DVR or HD receiver.

    He did look up the offers he could apply to my account, since it has been one year since my last upgrade, and is able to offer me an HD Receiver for the price of shipping; like 21 bucks. I will probly do that after I think it over a bit.

    He had everything set up and did not even have a problem with my Plus HD DVR service glitch. But the computer would not recognize my system as being eligible for MRV.

    This was after two other phone calls to CSR's that kept pushing the whole house upgrade.

    I will call back to see if I can get another HD device with the whole house upgrade for $99 as that may be the clincher for me.
     
  12. Jun 29, 2010 #592 of 1195
    pwhalley

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    I tried this verbatim yesterday and they told me:
    Changed to xtra

    Tried again:
    I am using H24 & HR24 connected on a gigabit net.
    What really browns my toast is that the installers have never installed one foot of coax or cat 5 to connect any of my boxes or the antenna but won't allow me to use my network even if I pay for the "service":mad:!!

    Hopeful - but don't know why.
     
  13. Jun 29, 2010 #593 of 1195
    sigma1914

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    Are you on a SWM setup? If so, then you have DECA built in & ready for MRV.
     
  14. Jun 30, 2010 #594 of 1195
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    Just call and ask. I have Total Choice Plus, and they turned on MRV for me in under 5 minutes. I played dumb and got it with no problem at all. "Hey, I used to have the MRV beta, and it quit working. Can you turn it back on." "We can do that sir, but we can't support it if you have a problem, and it will be $3/month." "No problem, throw the switch". I refreshed my services a few minutes later, and bam, MRV was working again.
     
  15. Jul 1, 2010 #595 of 1195
    redrover

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    How do you set up this method?? (the ethernet method) No deca?

    Thanks
     
  16. Jul 1, 2010 #596 of 1195
    Mrmiami

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    Redrover, go back to the beginning of this thread and follow Doug's instructions for sending DirecTV an email to get this activated.
    Assuming you've already done all of your Cat5 runs to your receivers and Router and your router can see all of the receivers (otherwise do a soft reset of your router and you should be good to go. Then send off your email (I just posted and copied most of the info) already provided in Doug's outlined instructions. Just so you know ahead of time.....there is still a monthy charge for this even though your doing it outside the Deca domain but it has always worked near flawlessly for me but I have since signed on with the DECA approach for the added security of support. Email can take a couple days to get activated, if you need any further help, drop us a line. Hope this helps. :)
     
  17. Jul 1, 2010 #597 of 1195
    redrover

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    I wasnt sure if there was any other hardware things to do other than the cat5. I also know you have to pay $3 per month. I have an older 5lnb dish with the lnb side by side so I guess I need an additional swm with deca. If I can install that at inside the house I t would be great. Im not hiking up a 24 foot ladder...

    How good was the video and stuff when you did the ethernet?

    If I go the Deca route I guess I can get all the stuff on ebay???

    Thanks
     
  18. Jul 1, 2010 #598 of 1195
    mdavej

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    Cat5 is all you need. My video looks perfect over ethernet, even using wireless-N on one box. I don't have SWM either.
     
  19. Jul 1, 2010 #599 of 1195
    Mrmiami

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    Nope, that's pretty much it. You can definately put your setup indoors but D* tech did go up to the dish for something maybe to get rid of the unecessary wiring? I don't know I didn't follow him around and I wasn't going up that ladder either (32Ft) :eek2: Video from all receivers was fine and really don't notice much of a difference but the added support made it worth the switch for us just for the peace of mind.
    You could try Solid Signal too instead of eBay at least your assured it'll all be new stuff.
     
  20. Jul 4, 2010 #600 of 1195
    pwhalley

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    Thanks to all that replied to the 2 posts I made. Soon after my reply to the first request indicating I had changed to a current plan, repeating the receiver config. I had etc., the option was available on my receivers. Sorry I couldn't post sooner.

    sigma1914:
    I have a HR24 and H24. With these receivers NO DECA is needed (you probably know that). I do not have the SWIM config. I tried, but 'they' insisted on using the older 4 output dish. The only way to get swim was to get a combination of receivers and dvrs that would exceed the capacity of the 4 out antenna - regardless of the fact that 'they' were having to install some kind of antenna anyway. I suspect that if I were to add another HR24 tomorrow, 'they' would leave the feedhorn assy as is and put in the box (can't remember name) that gives same - only different- result inside instead of using the simpler setup.

    Others are asking about the network config:

    Receivers must share the same subnet (network 'software' side) and should be connected to the same physical network (no routers etc.) {that would be the hardwre side}. I would also avoid wireless repeater segments between the receivers if at all possible. Things will work most smoothly if all receivers are connected to the same ethernet switch. If a router is present on the network and ther router is connected to the internet, that connection can be used for PPV purchases and for the on demand service that is available with the HR24 DVR's.

    I have also seen some remarks suggesting some think a Gigabit network is necessary for this to work (well?). I would disagree. The network should be a non blocking configuration. Your switch(es) should be non-blocking few aren't today - except of course for wireless connections which are inherently blocking. Only when not able to share a common switch would a Gigabit link between the switches possibly be necessary and then only if you are passing data 'foreign' to the receivers across the same link.


    My observations:
    Both of my receivers connect at 100 MBs only. Yes, all the rest of my network equipment is Gigabit and yes, MRV does work fairly well - so far. Also, on demand downloads on/to the DVRs are available to all receivers on the network - in case that isn't obvious - once downloaded. They are available once downloading begins but download speed was limited to 2Mbs when I was testing. As a result, it is easy to deplete the stream when viewing while downloading.

    I also am unable to access on demand listings on DTV from the H24. Consequently I can't solicit downloading of content from the web to the HR24 using the H24 user interface. I don't think this is a necessary limitation.

    I tried to record an all day ticket on the HR24 using MRV from the H24 and then start viewing 10 minutes after the start time on the same H24 but that didn't seem to work. I think it ought to of course. Starting the recording using MRV connected H24 did work but I was not able to see a recording in progress entry in the MRV list once recording had actually begun. After record was complete, I had to 'purchase' directly on the HR24, stop and then the recording was made available to the MRV list offered to the H24 and I was able to watch as expected. This is another place that I think there is room for improvement.

    Again, thanks to all that contribute to making this an important and useful resource for us users.

    Peter
     
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