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Enabling MRV using your home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, May 20, 2010.

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  1. ColinWD

    ColinWD Cool Member

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    Thanks everyone for the suggestions and advice.

    I do not have wired in every room thus the power line adapters and more than likely the source of the problems.

    Looks like DECA is the way to proceed.

    Thanks again.
     
  2. VABlitz

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    I currently have an HR21 and HR22 connected in the unsupported mode going through my router. I have problems browsing the internet when streaming HD from the other box. Do these devices need to see the internet to work? I have an additional router and was thinking of putting them on another network to eliminate the bandwith hog that streaming HD is, but would like to eliminate them from my cable modem altoghether.
     
  3. dennisj00

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    I'd recommend ordering 2 DECA units and a CCK (or WCCK, or 3rd DECA with power supply) and remove the Ethernet connection from your HRs.

    This will get all the MRV traffic off your router and still give the HRs internet access.
     
  4. VABlitz

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    Do the DECA's require SWiM? I am still running two rg6 cables with BBC to each receiver. I think my switch is SWiM capable, but I know my LNB is not. So, I take it they do need to see the internet. Perhaps just giving them their own router will be enough with a connection through my internet router.
     
  5. dennisj00

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    They do require SWiM.

    Instead of adding a router for them, just put them on their own switch with one jumper back to the router.
     
  6. VABlitz

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    That's basically what I was going to do. I do not have a switch, but I will configure the old extra router I have as a switch (I think you can configure it as a switch).
     
  7. dennisj00

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    Just be sure DHCP is off on the one used as a switch. (and probably wifi unless you set it up properly.)
     
  8. harsh

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    You can easily get a small Gigabit switch for under $20 so trying to convert a beater router is probably not your best investment.
     
  9. lugnutathome

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    Your inquiry has received a number of good answers and really you have several options. Have DirectTV "drive the bus" and go DECA between the servers. From what you say you have, you will need a SWM switch (or dish), 2 DECA units for the DVRs and a CCK if you wish on demand access.

    But I had run 4 coumputers, up to 8 DVRs and several HD receivers on a 10/100 switched network with no issues. (there is something not right with what you have) I have since gone to a full gig switched fabric, added wireless "N", and also have 3 DVRs and 2 HR receivers on DECA bridged via a CCK. (way more complex than you need but to illustrate with good components your unsupportted Whole Home should work without doing what you are seeing it do now.

    Future proofing and gaining full support make the DECA option probablly the best but I don't know what kind of pricetag that conversion may net you (149-199?) You should call and ask. Try to negociate. . . You can upgrade your router and toss in a switch for 100 to 150 dollars that would fix things in your current installation. (possibly less but too cheap and you are back where you are) All things being equal the DECA conversion is the path of least resistance long term and offers support.

    But on reasonable quality 10/100 equipment you shouldn't see what you are seeing. Just adding a switch and connecting the DVRs up on that might "fix" what you are seeing but it shouldn't be doing that at all. Perhaps your router has a hub instead of a switch?

    Don "remember to wax the string and pull taut" Bolton

     
  10. VABlitz

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    Yeah, part of the problem is one of the receivers is running wireless N. I really need to run a CAT6 cable to it, but the heat in my attic is torture. I rarely use the network stream, but always have to remember when I do it destroys my internet connection. I also found a gigabit switch I had laying around, but without the CAT6 cable it is no use.
     
  11. harsh

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    I'm not convinced the DECA is synonymous with future proofing. There's been a lot of grumbling about having to go from ODU to SWM-xx as well as the apparent lack of a certain upgrade path should they come out with something that handles more, perhaps narrower, channels.

    Right up to the point that SWiM became available, HomePlug was the "future".
     
  12. harsh

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    CAT6 is NOT required for Gigabit. A reasonable quality CAT5e (or even a 250MHz+ CAT5) should work just fine.
     
  13. VABlitz

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    I am aware of that, but the difference in price from CAT5E to CAT6 is insignificant. I also have CAT6 cables already bought for the job, just too lazy to run them.
     
  14. The Merg

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    I'm not convinced the DECA is synonymous with future proofing. There's been a lot of grumbling about having to go from ODU to SWM-xx as well as the apparent lack of a certain upgrade path should they come out with something that handles more, perhaps narrower, channels.

    Right up to the point that SWiM became available, HomePlug was the "future".


    Well, considering that DirecTV is heavily invested in SWM and DECA at this point, I think we can safely say that DirecTV is committed to that technology for the near future. Enhancements can be made to SWM that are easily backward compatible with what people have now. It eases installation for installers and creates an easier avenue for providing technical support. And yes, while a SWM-LNB needs to be replaced if a user wants more than 8 tuners, the setup inside the house is not much different than it was before the upgrade.


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  15. peds48

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    Right up to the point that SWiM became available, HomePlug was the "future".


    Not sure how you would consider the HomePlug as the future. There were, are very unreliable
     
  16. harsh

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    It was what DIRECTV offered at the time (remembering that MRV was available looooong before DECA came on the scene and they renamed it Whole Home DVR Service).

    As for compatibility with advancements in the technology, I'm not seeing where DIRECTV has a plan to handle MoCA 2 (DECA is ostensibly MoCA 1.1 with a "mid-RF" extension).

    I would also point out that the DECA hardware appears not to be MoCA approved (in much the same way that the Genies aren't RVU approved).
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Home plug was never installed for Whole Home Service. Only for internet connectivity for vod. In fact Whole Home Service has only ever been truly supported over deca as I recall. It's year plus on Ethernet was mostly testing not actual launch. That didn't happen t ill they started charging for it which coincided with deca launch.
     
  18. The Merg

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    Yup. Home Plug was for Internet access for DVRs for VOD. Whole Home has always been via DECA except for the beta using Ethernet. Of course, we know that since we've used DirecTV during those times.


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  19. VABlitz

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    Is there any benefit to getting the newer version of the DECA's? Noticed someone on Amazon selling the white early-DECA for $10, while Solid Signal charges $50 for either one.
     
  20. RAD

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    AFAKI, no. As long as the white DECA's have the green lable on them they work the same as the newer model DECA's.
     
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