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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by alv, Apr 30, 2007.

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  1. Apr 30, 2007 #21 of 142
    Tom Robertson

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    that should save a couple hundred watts just turning off the death ray... :)
     
  2. Apr 30, 2007 #22 of 142
    Coffey77

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    Even in STANDBY I'm showing 39 Watts.
     
  3. Apr 30, 2007 #23 of 142
    say-what

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    Well, I worry about things I can control and fact is that the planet has been warming since the end of the last ice age. Truth be known, while humans have some effect on the climate, the planet's own climate cycles run their own course with or without us.

    Now what exactly does this have to do with the CE Forum?

    I think I'll go watch my blue LEDs spin :)
     
  4. Apr 30, 2007 #24 of 142
    Earl Bonovich

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    Nothing... and that is the reason I moved it about 1 minute after it was posted.
     
  5. Apr 30, 2007 #25 of 142
    say-what

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    Mind's not working tonight, must be delerious from the heat cast off from the HR20, thought I was in the CE, maybe I need to turn my thermostat down :lol:
     
  6. Apr 30, 2007 #26 of 142
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    Not to mention that Mars is also warming up. The ice caps on Mars are melting...must be caused by the industrial revolution that they are having there. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Apr 30, 2007 #27 of 142
    Coffey77

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    Please, :backtotop as, like Mars, we are orbiting around the OP Topic. The OP is curious about how much the HR20 draws and it's a valid question that seems to be somewhat hard to answer. :) Let's try to take some of this "constructive-ness" and figure it out. ;)
     
  8. Apr 30, 2007 #28 of 142
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    I pay 6.8 CENTS per kWh in Anaheim Ca. (before exceeding baseline). So, at 40 watts running 24/7 for 30 days it uses just under 29kWh which costs less than $2 per month. Most HDDs use less than 10 watts if I remember correctly.

    What's a space chemist? Aerogels and other high-tech materials or something else?
     
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    I could still be getting pull from the eSATA as well. I haven't tried it with just the HR20 alone. Maybe tomorrow if I remember. I can't get my meter to pull an AMP draw without jury-rigging something screwy. I COULD do it but as of right now, I just don't wanna. ;)

    Like you said, either way we're pretty close and it's basically nothing.
     
  11. Apr 30, 2007 #31 of 142
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    I would love to see PowerSaving modes for my DVRs. For the bulk of my TV viewing, I keep my plasma TV in low-power mode, so it would be cool if there was such a feature that kicked in automatically for my DVRs that reduced energy consumption when the boxes were idle.

    I have 7 DVRs, so the cost savings would really add up ...
     
  12. Apr 30, 2007 #32 of 142
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    Why don't you just get rid of everything in your house that uses electricity that was you can save the power for the rest of us and we can stop discussing this silly topic.

    Reliance on middle east oil? Are you that naive? You must be from Berkeley.
     
  13. Apr 30, 2007 #33 of 142
    Drew2k

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    Did you miss the other comments about posting off-topic comments? Unless you're a Donald Trump, most people would welcome the chance to save a few bucks off their electric bill. That's what this thread is about - it's not a political discussion. :rolleyes:

    At a cost of 40¢ a day per DVR, my DVRs cost me $1,022 a year. You're telling me you don't care about shaving a few cents off a day? Even if it's only 2¢ a day saved, that's over $51 into my pocket. I certainly care about that.
     
  14. Apr 30, 2007 #34 of 142
    Earl Bonovich

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    I am not sure how much it would save...
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    Or how low they could get it...

    The Hard Drive is about 1/3rd of the power consumption (Based on what has been posted here... 33w and 10w for the drive...)

    You can't stop and start the drive... as we know the spin and spindown of the drives are the most "power consumption" pieces... and the most risk to the drive.... starting and stoping it for recordings... would happen how many times in a day (basically similar to shutting down and rebooting your computer)

    What about the 20w... The tuners have to be constantly listening and processing the information from the sat line.... then the network connections, as future features will have things that involve that at a momements notice...

    Phone line listening to log caller-id, and the remote sensors listening for remote commands... then the USB ports listening for remote commands from central processing units.... The RF modules...

    Not to mention just hte general "housekeeping" stuff that goes on...

    So I am sure they can shave some power usage from it in some places, but I am not sure how much lower you could get it... until you take a chunk from the hard drive usage... and the core processor unit...
     
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    It's just not worth the aggrevation. PG&E is gonna get however much they want out of me anyway. The baseline usages are totally unrealistic. I have asked over 200 people if they have EVER stayed un der baseline and none have.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist but after deregulation the electric companies can do whatever they want. It's just they way it is.

    Do I want to save $51 a month on electricity? Yes. Do I want D* to spend millions developing an "energy saving" feature for the HR20? No. Why because we will be paying for that R&D and i'm pretty certain it will cost us more than $51 a year in the long run.
     
  16. Apr 30, 2007 #36 of 142
    Earl Bonovich

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    But at what cost to functionality does that $51 savings get you...

    Yes I am playing devils advocate here...

    If they wind down the drive, that introduces a delay at the start of "non-scheduled" recordings (aka you hit R)... or you lose the ability for the buffering during live.

    If you shutdown the network card, then you lose the opportunity for the network port to listen for commands (such as web scheduling, or even possible MRV requests in the future)..

    Shutdown the tuners... no guide data, unless you get it via another means.

    While I am not against trying to get it to reduce it's power... I am just a little stumped on where it could come from in the unit... I am sure there are some, but I am not sure how much.

    IMHO: outside of this HR20... I wish they would find a way to make cost effective, and practical solar panels for resedential/consumer usage.

    If I could spend say $5,000 for the setup.. to suppliment my power usage in my home... I am sure it would pay for it self in a few years...

    There are a lot of other power hungry devices/usages out there... that would probably go a long way in helping the overall problem.

    Changing 10 lights in your house from traditional lightbulbs to floressent... will probably save you the money to offset any extra costs encurred by the DVRs... Timers on other lights, to ensure they are off during the day..

    Go to a GAS high-efficient dryer (with a matching washer), will most definently save you more... I love the ones we have now... 14 gallons of water, compared to 40 per wash...

    Again... not saying that the DVRs couldn't benefit from a trimming, but these are basically computers that are running 24/7... not sure how much lower then 33w you can get them...
     
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    I concur totally.
     
  18. May 1, 2007 #38 of 142
    armophob

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    I do not know how much the HR20 draws, but I know if I shut off my plasma for 15 min more a day than I do now, it would well cover that. I ain't gonna do it, but I'm just saying.
     
  19. May 1, 2007 #39 of 142
    veryoldschool

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    I will completely agree with PG&E baseline usages as unrealistic.
    Now make that out of 201 people, you only know of one that can stay under baseline usage, which would make 0.5% of the households could ever stay under baseline usage.
     
  20. May 1, 2007 #40 of 142
    veryoldschool

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    Go to bed 15 min early...:lol:
     
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