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Epix-HD on Directv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mr.X, May 26, 2010.

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  1. Jun 3, 2010 #81 of 187
    Mr.X

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    From Epix twitter feed.
    EpixHD

    We're getting BIGGER and BETTER! We're launching a new channel. Help us name it and you might win an iPod Nano. http://epx.ms/3EtIks
     
  2. Jun 3, 2010 #82 of 187
    jstutman

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    I just applied to a access code on epixhd.com

    pretty near. inviting friends to watch a movie with you :)
     
  3. Jun 3, 2010 #83 of 187
    joed32

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    Then I would like to get it. Along with TCM and FMC which are also commercial free movie channels
     
  4. Jun 3, 2010 #84 of 187
    SPACEMAKER

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    I'd love for them to add EpixHD just as long as they don't raise my Premier rates. :)
     
  5. Jun 3, 2010 #85 of 187
    pablo

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    From their survey about a proposed new Epix channel:

     
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    tonyd79

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    Sparing no expense, are they? Wow, a nano! Not an iPad. Not even an iPod Touch. Cheap b******s.
     
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    SPACEMAKER

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    :lol: I like how they say you might win a Nano.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2010 #88 of 187
    AMike

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    Who knows if Blockbuster is going to be with us for much longer? There is a real possibility that they may file bankruptcy sometime this year. One of Blockbuster's chief rivals, Movie Gallery, filed bankruptcy and never emerged recovered. I'm not saying that will happen to Blockbuster, but it could very well.

    We get more "bang for our buck" with Netflix which is one of the major reasons we will not consider another premium channel. We have the streaming options which give us a huge "on-demand" selection. Plus, we get to select our content instead of having the same movies repeated on the premium channels. As for the 28 day delay, again that does not impact us. We will still get to watch the movies well in advance of when they will appear on a premium channel.
     
  9. Jun 3, 2010 #89 of 187
    jerrylove56

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    Still curious why Direct says they not interested in service without even sniffing at it. Wonder if studios that own EPIX have a issue with Liberty. (Answer my own question: Perhaps Liberty doesn't want competition with Starz, since they own that to.
     
  10. Jun 4, 2010 #90 of 187
    gregjones

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    It was my understanding that Epix wanted about $13 per sub. This puts it on par with HBO on DirecTV and a lot more expensive than UHD, HDNet Movies and MGMHD. I get the distinct impression that DirecTV felt that the interest would not merit the overhead at that price point. Either that or they felt Epix was doomed to fail and didn't feel like going through the required work effort to add it before it died.
     
  11. Jun 4, 2010 #91 of 187
    joed32

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    We get more "bang for our buck" with Netflix which is one of the major reasons we will not consider another premium channel. We have the streaming options which give us a huge "on-demand" selection. Plus, we get to select our content instead of having the same movies repeated on the premium channels. As for the 28 day delay, again that does not impact us. We will still get to watch the movies well in advance of when they will appear on a premium channel.

    Also Netflix has so many more titles than Blockbuster does.
     
  12. Jun 4, 2010 #92 of 187
    JoeTheDragon

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    Comcast also said no to EPIX as well
     
  13. Jun 4, 2010 #93 of 187
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    DISH put EPIX into its Platinum HD tier (which I think is like DirecTV's HD Extra Pack) for which it charges $10 a month. That package includes other channels like Universal HD, MGMHD and HDNet Movies. If DISH could negotiate a deal that would allow that kind of price point, DirecTV should be able to do so too.
     
  14. Jun 4, 2010 #94 of 187
    gregjones

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    Or Dish is eating the cost of it for marketing purposes.
     
  15. Jun 4, 2010 #95 of 187
    gpg

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    Given Ergen's history, I think it's unlikely that he'd eat that much as a loss leader, but it's certainly possible.
     
  16. Jun 4, 2010 #96 of 187
    gregjones

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    I agree. But we have several completely incompatible pieces of data. We know Epix shopped itself as a premium service akin to HBO or Showtime with a similar cost. We also know that they had almost no adoption at all based on that first round of talks. As time wore on Epix eventually convinced a few carriers to include the channel.

    The only options are as follows:
    • Dish decided they needed Epix so much that they ate the cost (unlikely)
    • Epix decided they needed Dish so much that they lowered the cost for Dish
    • Epix decided they needed some exposure and lowered the cost on all carriers

    I fear that Epix may follow the path of VOOM channels: a bright future, a stint on Dish, and a grisly demise. Something is keeping DirecTV away from Epix. Maybe it is the likelihood of it folding. Maybe it is the lack of capacity pre-D12. Maybe it is pressure from other premiums. Maybe the dirt-cheap pricing that Dish got is no longer on the table for DirecTV. We don't know.
     
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    Having Epix and Epix2, along with Retro and Indie, added to the Platinum package is the only reason I am keeping Platinum now that HD for Free is here, and they seperated HD+Platinum. Platinum has a few channels, but not for $10, now with the addtion of those 4, plus the other 3-4 original Platinum channels we watch, its worth keeping.

    I just wish, my dish login would work with the epix webpage, for extra movie viewing.

    Epix looks like its going the way of both TV carriers as well as web viewing. Wish my Dish had paid more so my dish login worked on the epix webpage like it does with Fiox or Cox.

    Looks like so far Dish, Cox, Fios, and MediaCom, have signed up. So Epix has more than 1 paying customer.
    Only ones to say no so far are Comcast, Direct, CableVision
    Other Carriers are still out.

    Not sure about the Deal Dish may or may not have gotten compared to the others, and it looks like Dish went the cheapest route, as your login's don't work for webviewing.
    The idea that Cheapo Charlie would support a loss leader of any shape or form is REALLY funny.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2010 #98 of 187
    jerrylove56

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    Agree. He sues at a drop of hat to get his way and drops programmers too if they get a little to expensive for his taste. Has to be something else going on.
     
  19. Jun 4, 2010 #99 of 187
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    Found this article from last month and it seems to conflicts with your info:http://paidcontent.org/article/419-...ld-pay-for-jersey-shore-uncensored-on-demand/

    Here are some excerpts:

    On Epix: Slightly more than two years after Viacom, Paramount, Lionsgate (NYSE: LGF) and MGM announced plans for a premium net, EpixHD is “right on plan,” says Dauman. From the outside, it looked like Verizon FiOS might be it while other distribution deals were stuck in the pipeline, but a spate of announcements including Cox, Charter (NSDQ: CHTR) and a national deal with Dish suggest the new multi-platform network is breaking through. That’s due in part to a flexible business model made possible by not being an incumbent. Dauman explains: “Certain distributors have movie tiers they want to drive, some more broadband subscriptions. Some of them will want to offer it as a traditional pay service. We offer great flexibility in how they use it.” The deals are all different. “We try to drive to a certain amount of revenue per subscriber. That can be achieved many different ways—so we may have some guaranteed revenue with upside and we’ll help them drive the upside.”

    The service has been rolling out for the last few months. “Obviously, we’re in early stages but we are seeing that Epix subscribers are younger, they love the multi platform, they obviously love HD, and they like the social aspects.” Last weekend, Epix hosted a Black Eyed Peas concert in standard and HD on TV, VOD and EpixHD.com. The broadband experience included shared viewing by 1,000 at a time in the interactive EPIX Event Theatre. Epix is also building its own slate of originals, with seven shows in development. “Not all of them will work but as we get our full distribution we’ll able to do more. Given who the partners are, we have access to a lot of creators that might not otherwise be available to the middlemen.”
     
  20. Jun 4, 2010 #100 of 187
    jerrylove56

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    Based on Viacoms earning statements from April 2010 your input seems uncertain.
    http://paidcontent.org/article/419-...igit-profit-increase-despite-drop-in-revenue/

    excerpt regarding EpixHD: Dauman said the fledgling network is “very well-funded” and should be safe from any issues with MGM. “Lionsgate (NYSE: LGF) and Viacom are in positions to handle Epix’s cash need; the capital needs are not that significant on go forward basis.”
     
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