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Epix to Directv?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by fkubick, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. Feb 6, 2013 #361 of 423
    Diana C

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    I am one of those people that subscribed to the "free trial" of Epix via my Roku and have never had the trial expire. I have to say that if the selection available through the online stream is a reflection of the channel itself I can definitely live without it. Out of all the movies and specials available I didn't find one that prompted anyone in my family to say "Gee, I'd like to see that."

    As a film fan, I personally feel that there is no such thing as a worthless movie channel. However, given a choice between Epix and some of the other channels DirecTV needs to add, I can see why Epix is not a priority.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2013 #362 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    It is about value. Their asking rate and its impact on capacity do not match its value given their lack of content.

    Supporting the removal of something is different that calling for the removal of something. I believe I said it made sense due to the fact that it no longer generated revenue the way it once did. It probably cost them more to provide it than it was worth. Not to mention a decline in overall NASCAR interest as well.

    DirecTV executives voiced an opinion about Epix lacking value. I pointed out why. DirecTV will add Epix if and when the circumstances change. Either Epix will make their offer more attractive by adding better content, by reducing the cost to a provider...or a combination of the two.

    I know it may surprise some when a business makes a business decision, but they do that rather frequently.

    My only personal gripe with Epix is that they want to be a more or less exclusive movie premium and they often cannot even do that right in respect to OAR. HBO is notorious for this, but the focus has shifted to original programming and they have a lot of it.
     
  3. Feb 6, 2013 #363 of 423
    studechip

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    I'm confused. How can you know so much about how Directv goes about making their decisions if, as you say, you don't work for them?
     
  4. Feb 6, 2013 #364 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Simple logic, common sense...and I've paid attention. I haven't worked in the private sector in a very long time.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2013 #365 of 423
    studechip

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    Nope, that doesn't explain it.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2013 #366 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Actually, it does. :)
     
  7. Feb 6, 2013 #367 of 423
    studechip

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    Either you have insider knowledge, or you are blowing smoke.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2013 #368 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Nope. Easy to figure things out when there is so much information readily available.
     
  9. Feb 6, 2013 #369 of 423
    lacubs

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    i guess your as big as movie fan as you says, this is not attack on you but Epix got like "The Hunger Games" "True Grit" and "The Dictator" and other movies that alot of people would like to see. so that why Epix is high priority
     
  10. Feb 6, 2013 #370 of 423
    lparsons21

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    Go check again. I looked at HBO and Showtime, east feeds during prime time and found that movies are still more prevalent in that timeframe though the do some incessant reruns of their original stuff also. Looked at a single week.
     
  11. Feb 6, 2013 #371 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    I have looked. My prior post still stands. Their prime programming blocks and marketing efforts are dedicated to original programming. That is their focus.
     
  12. Feb 7, 2013 #372 of 423
    Sandra

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    LOL So entertaining watching people spin on a circle...

    Yes I know why they made that decision!...No I don't know why they made that decision because I don't have appropriate data that DirecTV has!...

    Too funny.


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  13. Feb 7, 2013 #373 of 423
    lparsons21

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    Their marketing efforts certainly are centered around the original programming, which makes sense as that is the differentiator.

    But their showings during the week are more time with movies during prime time than originals. In fact, for most of the week, the 'originals' that are playing are just the incessant repeats.

    Epix makes a big deal about blockbusters, boxing and some specials because that is their strengths. Original productions will come along at some point in time.

    All of the rest of the premiums took many years to get to the point that making originals was the right move, and they had the budgets to do them right by then.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2013 #374 of 423
    harsh

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    Your statements are typically presented as fact rather than opinion or derived. Given your stated detachment, this seems wildly inappropriate.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2013 #375 of 423
    harsh

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    This isn't a whole lot different than AMC other than the fact that AMC plays conventional third-party commercials in addition to the shameless and repetitive self-promotion of one or two original series that may be in their regular season at any one time.
     
  16. Feb 7, 2013 #376 of 423
    harsh

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    I've been quite taken with the Marvel backed movies that seem to be among those that don't get to the other services for quite a while.
     
  17. Feb 7, 2013 #377 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Epix has done nothing to add value to their product. Until they do that or they reduce their cost to providers...nothing will happen. They only made matters worse with their streaming deals and their abandonment of original programming.
     
  18. Feb 7, 2013 #378 of 423
    harsh

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    Pretty much the only official word that has been given about NFL ST is that up to 25% of "new" subscribers to DIRECTV choose it in the third financial quarter. That usually equates to something less than 250,000 subscribers.

    Add to this the returning long-time subscribers and the number is probably less than 15% for something that costs a cool billion a year.

    It must be remembered that a big chunk of the NFL ST revenue comes from commercial accounts (maybe even the biggest chunk).
     
  19. Feb 7, 2013 #379 of 423
    harsh

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    One could make the same argument in regard to DIRECTV Cinema and we know that DIRECTV spends a considerable amount of their bandwidth budget on playing the same movies over and over again (up to five times at once). Denzel Washington's Flight is currently playing on five HD and two SD channels.
     
  20. Feb 7, 2013 #380 of 423
    Sandra

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    Yes, you have stated your opinion. Thank you!


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