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eSATA capacity questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. l8er

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    Since the esata connection comes from the same controller that the internal sata connector is plugged in to, I would expect both to perform the same.
     
  2. Richierich

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    I also wonder if the Kernel Limitation is 1.5 TB and not 2 TB.

    I know it it stated that it is 2 TB but it may only be 1.5 TB.
     
  3. Rich

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    That's undoubtedly because you know more about this stuff than I do. I would have thought that the eSATA function detracted from the capacity in some way. One can hope to be right once in a while. Still a learning experience for me. Interesting tho. Please stay with us. Obviously, we need guidance and I have no problem sitting at the feet of masters.

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  4. Rich

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    Agreed, but where's the fun in that?

    To clarify the above statement, the Venus is set to RAID 1 and his capacity is 1TB. We've recognized the 20-700 as being able to support 1TB drives of any sort. We are trying to go beyond the 1.3-1.4TB capacity and have not been able to do so.

    And since weaknees.com is selling internal hard drives that customers can install themselves, I think that gives us clear sailing to put our own internals in without D* flipping out.

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  5. Rich

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    Ahhh, now I gotta go find out what a "Kernel" is. And what was that comment about a "cheap" HDMI cord for? Once again, my philosophy is that more expensive items usually work better than cheap ones. :lol:

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  6. Richierich

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    I think the whole point of view from Directv's standpoint is a legal disclaimer in case you get shocked or injured or screw up the device because you are inept and totally incapable of replacing a drive in your PC or DVR!

    It is a Blanket Disclaimer and if I were Directv I would be saying the same thing. Do it at your OWN RISKS in other words.

    I have been in these forums for over 10 years and have never heard of Directv sueing someone over increasing their drive size.

    That comment about a "Cheap" HDMI post actually came from one of your posts and I was just alluding to the fact that it could be one of many possibilities. We can't rule out much at this point because nobody knows or if they do they sure as Hell ain't telling us are they.
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. If you have a problem with something from weakness, then you send things back to them, not DirecTV.
     
  8. Richierich

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    Mister Old School, I appreciate your WISDOM and SAGE ADVICE but I think he was referring to the fact that if Weaknees can do it and be sanctioned then Directv REALLY doesn't care as long as they can't be held LIABLE which is what I have been saying from the GIT GO!!!
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    I was just repeating what Earl said, when this was asked long ago [about Weaknees].
    We do know [and if not, then I'll repeat it too] that DirecTV "knows we can do it", but has asked us "not to do it".
     
  10. Richierich

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    And all we are asking is WHY?
     
  11. houskamp

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    Because it's theirs? and they don't want it broke?
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    "All we are saying is...." :lol:
    I won't repeat the "lease thing".
    They give us the eSATA option & in a chat asked us "not to".
    Weakness does "their thing". If there is a problem, it would be between who bought it and weakness & not DirecTV.
    Many may feel it's "their right", just as some don't obey the speed limit.
    "Why" could have to do with the testing we do, but who knows?
     
  13. Rich

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    That wasn't my point. The fact that Weaknees is now selling internal drives to be installed by owners would lead me to believe that D* has relaxed it's policy towards opening the HRs. Since Weaknees is an authorized D* seller, how could they sell internal drives without D*'s permission?

    Have a nice Xmas?

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  14. Rich

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    There was a time that Weaknees could not alter the HRs. But they sure are selling all the same types of drives they sell for TiVos now. They must have received permission to do this or D* wouldn't let them advertise as "authorized" sellers of D* equipment.

    When I first started using eSATAs I spent over an hour with one of the guys at Weaknees explaining the whole eSATA thing and they are now selling them too. At really high prices, I might add.

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  15. Rich

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    I think Weaknees was and is a good producer of revenues for D*. And if they can sell internal drives that we can install ourselves, then that must open the door for replacements by customers buying hard drives from anyone.

    Will people open the HRs (if they can figure out how to) and break something? Sure, most people (not referring to folks on the forum) are klutsy and will screw up the sets, but how many people will know how to do it? Most people don't even try to hook up eSATAs. We are in the minority.

    I think the bottom line is that D* will sell more receivers. Or lease them. Whatever.

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  16. Rich

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    That's exactly what I was thinking, that song, what was it's name? All we are saying is give peace a chance? That worked out well.

    Asked the wife about this and she said it still comes down to how many units are leased, not what people do to them. Regarding D*'s bottom line, I mean.

    Oh, Weaknees products will work, never had a drive from them come out of the box defective. And they will come with detailed instructions on how to install them. They could not do this without D*'s permission and remain an authorized dealer. And if you can't do the swap, you can send them the HR and they will install the larger internal HD.

    Seems as if they are changing (evolving?). Perhaps it is a case of "They are gonna do it anyway, let's make some money off it." I dunno, anymore than I know how much the capacity of an eSATA the HRs will support.

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  17. saxon2000

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    Hi, just checking back in to let you know I'm down to 6% on my setup with no problems to report.
     
  18. veryoldschool

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    After a quick trip to weaknees, I don't see any changes.
    "Stock" DVRs are listed with a DirecTV warranty, while "modified" DVRs are listed with a Weaknees warranty.
     
  19. Rich

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    We seem to be arguing about two different things. I never said anything other than Weaknees was selling internal drives and letting the customer install them or the customer could send them the HR and Weaknees would install it. Never meant to convey the message that D* would "fix" anything that Weaknees sold or installed. Their warranties are separate and distinct and do not cross over.

    If you look further in the Weaknees site you will see internal drives for sale. I didn't see any HR other than the 20-700s that the drives were for... Just checked and they have internals for all the HRs except the 23s. Here is the link to that page:

    http://www.weaknees.com/dtv-tivo-upgrade.php

    If they can sell them with the expectation that the customer may install their hard drives, wouldn't you think that that would apply to any hard drive from any supplier too?

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  20. Rich

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    Great! I just got the 1.5TB Xtreme and will install it tomorrow on a 20-700. So, you're almost at 1.5TB? Good to know. Have you noticed any slowing down of the playlist or any remote commands? I just filled up a 750 and at about 15% the 21-700 started slowing up.

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