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eSATA capacity questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. ME n My HTPC

    ME n My HTPC New Member

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    Also, note that receivers are usually quoted hours of recording space.. Not desnity.
     
  2. knoxbh

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    Rich:

    Thanks a lot - I thought that was the correct answer.
     
  3. Rich

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    You're very welcome.

    Rich
     
  4. Steve Rhodes

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    I've got a 1TB internal in my HR20 (which I usaully run at about 4% available, 96% full) and have never experienced a bogging down. I'm thinking at some point about getting a 1.5TB internal (or if I wait a bit a 2TB internal) from Weakness, which is where I got my 1TB internal.

    Is this bogging down something that just happens to some people or most people and does the 1.5TB experience significantly more bogging down than the 1TB?
     
  5. Richierich

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    The "bogging down" experience that Rich relates to is a slowness of the CPU caused by several factors and we don't understand all of the factors but I believe it is related to the External Drive Configuration and not the Internal Drive Configuration because I have not experienced this condition on my Internal Drives. I believe it has to do with the eSATA connection and controller and an Internal Drive will not experience those problems.

    As far as calculations go you simply subtract 100 Meg from the Drive Capacity and then divide by 3.5 Meg and you will obtain how many MPEG-4 hours are available to your DVR. A 1 TB Drive will give you about 258 hours of MPEG-4 Recording. A 2 TB Drive will give you about 540 hours.

    Why buy your drive from Weakness when you can get a great drive such as mine for a lot less money from BUY.COM or wherever. I have the 2 TB WD20EADS in my HR23-700 and it works FLAWLESSLY!!! The prices range from about $260 to $300 for the 2 TB Drive which will give you about 540 hours of MPEG-4 Recording Capacity.
     
  6. Rich

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    Good to know the "bogging down" effect doesn't happen with an internal. I don't think we've ever gotten a post from someone that has filled his/hers large internal up to the point that you have. But there are some downside issues with what you have done. If you wish to discuss these, PM me.

    Happened with every eSATA, no matter the capacity, that I have tried. Simply going to the menus and restarting the HR usually solved the bogging down problem.

    Rich
     
  7. dminches

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    This certainly supports the notion of increasing capacity by replacing the internal drive given the difference in performance.
     
  8. Rich

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    I seem to remember filling up my 21-700 internal drive and getting the same bogging down results. I know I wrote about it, but I can't find it. Thought it was on this thread. Wish I could think of a way to search for it without getting a lot of hits to wade thru.

    Let me see if l can find it.

    Rich
     
  9. joshalee

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    I'm a newbie to adding an esata external. Quick questions or please point to a thread:
    1. Is $107 on amazon a good price for the external esata Calvary 1 TB?
    2. I have the first gen H20 HD-DVR (silver). No issues with adding the drive?
    3. Can I still record from the two tuners?
    4. Are there any type of limitations when moving to the external to store programs?

    Thanks
     
  10. Steve Rhodes

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    Easy. Some of us, BUT NOT ME, feel comfortable in opening the case and putting in a new drive. Some of us don't.

    Much more importantly for me in the future is that Weakness will copy all of your old programs for us onto your new and larger drive. And, since our household strategy is watch an entire season of episodes (12 or 22 or whatever number of episodes) at one time, our drives stay constantly very full. Hence, there is no time in which we've ever watched everything on the drive and are ready to switch to a clean new drive.

    Right now we have 2 HR20s, a 1TB one from Weakness and a 750MB external drive one. Both work great. Both run 90-95% full at all times.
     
  11. Richierich

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    Very good response as being able to save your recordings is an important thing and I had to bite the bullet and lose mine but I had most recorded on my 5 other DVRs so I was good to go.
     
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    ntrance

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    I understand your reluctance to open the case, but the procedure to copy the drive was documented on these forums before weaknees even offered the procedure. It's quite to do. See this this thread:
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=148760
     
  13. Apr 1, 2009 #573 of 579
    dminches

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    With TiVos you could save your recordings. Is this not possible with the internal drive replacement?
     
  14. Apr 1, 2009 #574 of 579
    Steve Rhodes

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    After reading this, I am SURE that paying someone else to do it and do it right is a good investment. It reminded me of reading tax forms.
     
  15. Apr 1, 2009 #575 of 579
    Rich

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    Yes, but don't let price be your guide. The Cavalrys are noisy and not the best product on the market.

    Nope, the Cav should work perfectly and it comes with an eSATA to eSATA cord. The noise issue isn't so bad if you have a sound system on when you're watching programs. This is not an eSATA you want in a bedroom.

    Yup, works just like the internal drive.

    No, you should get about 250-270 hours of programming with a 1TB eSATA.

    Rich
     
  16. Apr 1, 2009 #576 of 579
    Rich

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    Not easily. You can do it with a computer hook up. Never tried it, but from what I've read it's not that easy to do. There is a link on the post a couple posts down from this one. Post #574.

    Rich
     
  17. Apr 1, 2009 #577 of 579
    dminches

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    With Tivos it was simple - just a slightly different linux command.
     
  18. Apr 2, 2009 #578 of 579
    Rich

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    A lot of thing were simpler on the TiVos and a lot of things are simpler on the HRs. But, today, you have no option but the HR. Perhaps the TiVo will be a better machine. For now the HRs are what they are.

    At the moment, I'm very happy with the HRs as they are now. Doesn't stop me from thinking of getting a TiVo when they come out tho. Just for comparison's sake.

    Rich
     
  19. Apr 2, 2009 #579 of 579
    Rich

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    Well, I looked, searched and can't find anything about filling up internals. Might have been PMing with russdog for his eSATA FAQ thread, which I see is still active.

    I am curious, I could swear the same thing happened to the internal, but I don't feel like going thru that again. Perhaps in a few days, I'm still recovering from hitting balls for the first time this year day before yesterday. I just got no energy at the moment.

    Rich
     

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