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eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Jun 8, 2012 #2101 of 3467
    Zon2020

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    I believe the maximum cable length in the eSATA specification is 2 meters (6.6 ft). You might find a longer cable somewhere, but whether it would work reliably is a different question.
     
  2. Jun 8, 2012 #2102 of 3467
    Rich

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    Huh. Didn't know there was a limitation. Know now, thanx.

    Rich
     
  3. Jun 8, 2012 #2103 of 3467
    P Smith

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    It could be longer if cable's manufacturer will stay with signal's parameters by eSATA specs: voltage, noise, ripples, phase delay, etc.
    The length is posed because of typical design. If someone will go with better solution, then there is no such limit.
     
  4. Jun 8, 2012 #2104 of 3467
    Rich

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    Gotcha. Thanx.

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  5. Jun 9, 2012 #2105 of 3467
    harsh

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    Buffered cables and engineering theory don't much enter in as they have no place in the real world of the typical installation.

    As always, it is practice that matters, not something buried in a textbook.
     
  6. Jun 9, 2012 #2106 of 3467
    P Smith

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    Hope you know a difference between specs/textbook and verification/certification/sustaining manufacturing/etc.

    There is many ways to improve the SATA cable to reach farther points.
     
  7. Jun 9, 2012 #2107 of 3467
    harsh

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    The neat part about your approach is that it doesn't take economics or practicality into consideration.
     
  8. Jun 9, 2012 #2108 of 3467
    P Smith

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    It will come with the cable - you shouldn't worry, it's a matter of finance dept the manufacturer.
    I'm surprised of your unawareness of such things as cables. Take a look for Monster cables or other mfgs who claim pure copper wires, etc
     
  9. harsh

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    Manufacturers typically pass costs on assuming that they decide that it is worth the effort. As it is, a Google search for 12' eSATA cables gets no meaningful results.

    Is it possible? Probably. Has anyone mass produced one? Probably not. Net contribution of your insight to someone seeking such a solution? Frustration.
     
  10. P Smith

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    Frustration ? It should be addressed to pessimistic posts here. :)
    Search and you shall find ...
     
  11. dhempy

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    Good day again gents:

    My HD arrived today (the enclosure last week). I will probably get a chance tomorrow to attempt the install. IIRC, power up the drive first, then the HR ... watch for the notice that the drive is being initiated.

    Will use the supplied 3' cable. It looks like I can lay the enclosure down so I may not have to get a longer cable.

    Has anyone tried doing a straight disk to disk byte for byte copy to see if that works as a disk backup?

    Dan
     
  12. harsh

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    I did search and did NOT find. I'm left with much doubt that such a thing exists (ignoring that it doesn't seem economically feasible).
     
  13. harsh

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    I'm pretty sure it has been done but in terms of a secure backup, it is only a secure as the certainty that something else about the DVR that recorded it doesn't fail.
     
  14. CCarncross

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    The Gparted method of disk copying is a bit for bit copy, works great if you want to try to use it for a backup method...There is a great step by step tutorial in the tips and resources forum.
     
  15. dhempy

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    No joy on boot .. actually the HR went into some weird moving boxes / impossible to do anything mode ... and it wasn't setting the resolution correctly. I did a hard reset and got it back going but I'm not real happy at the moment. I run this through a Denon AVR3808CI and into a JVC DLA-RS2 projector. Anyway, maybe I missed it but I never saw the initialization message. Can someone enlighten me as to when it should appear?

    From Memory here is what I did / saw

    1) Unplugged the HR24 (removed power cord in back)
    2) Connected the esata and powered up the drive
    3) Turned on the Receiver and Projector, then the HR-24
    4) "Almost There .. just a few more seconds:
    5) "Just a Few More Seconds"
    6) "Running Rx Self Check"
    7) D* Logo .. Step 1 of 2. Check Satellite Settings, Few Minutes"
    8) Then the resolution went wacky and the pictures is boxes jumping everywhere

    The last time I rebooted, I could see a software download happening so I'm gonna try to let that complete. Is that the magic notice that something good is happening?

    I need to call D* support and get this jumping boxes thing figured out!

    Thanks.

    Dan


     
  16. dhempy

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    Thanks CCarnCross .. will have a look for it.

    Dan
     
  17. dhempy

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    IT would appear that my unit has been hit with the firmware bug that has disrupted the HDMI handshake between AVRs and HR units. After a bit of research, I seem to have a workaround until it is fixed.

    Meanwhile a couple of strange things have happened:
    1) I am now "enabled" for sharing ... even though I do not have a whole house DVR nor have I called anyone. I was prompted to name my HR-24 and there was an indication that this was for sharing.
    2) The device did download some new firmware.
    3) The "disk activity" light on the enclosure has been very active.
    4) I did set up a recording (season pass). I assume if I disconnect the external drive, then I shouldn't be able to see it. If it is still there, that was sent to the internal drive.

    I went through the settings menu but I didn't see anything that would tell me storage capacity or that an external drive was connected. Any guidance would be appreciated.

    Thanks. Dan
     
  18. detroit_fan

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    I have a few questions about these external drives that I was hoping you guys could help me with.

    I see that the original post is a few years old, are the Western Digital 500GB (model WDG1S5000), Seagate 500GB (model ST30500SCA109-RK), Western Digital 1TB (model WDG1S10000) still the current recommended models? If not, can you tell me what models are suggested now for my HR21-700.

    Amazon has a Western Digital My Book AV DVR Expander 1 TB, is that just an external drive with a case? Are those any good or do you recommend something different? I would really like something reliable.

    Sorry if these are stupid questions, I have never used and external drive before and want to make sure I buy the correct one. Thanks
     
  19. P Smith

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    That's correct because of nature of the matter.

    But if you will start reading backwards you'll find recent models of drives what our members did try to use as external drive for many different models of DTV DVR.
     
  20. Rich

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    You'll be better off with a 2TB HDD for many reasons. We recommend the WD line of Green Caviar HDDs. So far, they all seem to work with every model of HR. I would also suggest putting the HDD in a Thermaltake docking station. Just go to Amazon and put in "Thermaltake docking station" in the search box and you'll see what I'm talking about. Can't send you a link, sorry. Costs $32 today and you don't need tools to install it. I have several and I've never had a problem with any of them except for the on/off switch. I know they look odd, but they really work well. Dust and heat are not to be worried about with these docking stations.

    More questions? Feel free to ask.

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