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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Aug 28, 2010 #801 of 3433
    finaldiet

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    My HR20 went bad couple of days ago and they replaced it with an HR24-500. I want to add a 20EVDS to it but not sure what all I need. Looks like I need an enclosure and wonder how easy is it to set up. Any suggestions? I had a seagate 750 esata on mine that has been working for 2-3 years. Thanks for any help.
     
  2. Aug 28, 2010 #802 of 3433
    dminches

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    The combination of the EVDS and an Antec MX-1 seems to work for most, if not all.
     
  3. Aug 29, 2010 #803 of 3433
    Rich

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    I'm using a Thermaltake docking station on my 24-500 with a 2TB EVDS on it. No noise from the docking station and no vibration. So far, I couldn't be happier. Here's a link. Easy to install, in fact, the easiest external device I've ever installed. No tools required and the docking station comes with the eSATA jumper. And it's relatively cheap. You can get them cheaper than the link that I supplied if you're comfortable dealing with other websites. I prefer Amazon.

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  4. Aug 29, 2010 #804 of 3433
    finaldiet

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    It says on website USB. Is that the jumper. I'm not familiar with that. My 750 was hooked up by esata cable. Does that hard-drive fit into enclosure easily? How much will a 2TB run about? Thanks for any help.
     
  5. Aug 29, 2010 #805 of 3433
    Rich

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    You'll note that the heading for the docking station is: Thermaltake BlacX eSATA USB Docking Station

    All the "USB" means is that you can use it for eSATA or USB. You'll get an eSATA to eSATA jumper and a USB cable. No worries, it's an eSATA device.

    The HDD fits into the dock quite easily, but you have to look inside to see which way to insert the HDD. Quite easy.

    Here's a link to the HDD that I recommend and buy. It's made specifically with DVRs in mind. You can get them slightly cheaper on other websites, but I prefer Amazon. If something is wrong with either the docking station or the HDD you can easily return it with no hassles. And no restocking fees.

    Rich
     
  6. Aug 29, 2010 #806 of 3433
    CT_Wiebe

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    The Thermaltake docking station has both an external USB port and an external SATA (e-SATA) port. The internal connection is SATA (for a SATA Drive, only).

    You are right in questioning it. Some "USB" enclosures, labeled USB, only have an external USB connection. However, if you look at the pictures (on the Amazon page that rich584 linked to), you will see that the rear panel has an On/Off button, a Power Input connector, a USB connector, and a e-SATA connector.

    USB ports are the common serial connector, these days, used on laptops, netbooks, and also on desktop computers.

    The WD20EVDS costs about $0.072/MB, smaller drives are around $0.08 to $0.09 per MB). They can be cheaper from other sources, but Amazon has free shipping, which can cover most, if not all, of the cost difference.

    rich584 -- You responded, before I finished typing my explanation. However, I thought I would post my "tome", too. I just ordered both from them, thanks to you.
     
  7. Aug 29, 2010 #807 of 3433
    Rich

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    Agreed. Any enclosure or docking station should be looked at carefully. Amazon usually shows the connection ports.

    That price varies a few dollars each day or so on Amazon. I think I saw the 2TB EVDS for less than $135 the other day. Of course it's never low on the days I buy one. :lol:

    Don't you hate it when that happens?

    Hope everything works. Wait till you see how simple it is to hookup.

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  8. Sep 1, 2010 #808 of 3433
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    The 20EVDS + TTDS combo is working well for me, less noisy than my 1TB EARS + MX-1 enclosure.
     
  9. Sep 1, 2010 #809 of 3433
    Rich

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    You got an EARS to work?

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  10. Sep 3, 2010 #810 of 3433
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    HI all,

    Hopefully you can enlighten me here...

    I have a HR21 and installed a new WD 20000CSRTL Green drive from Amazon (136.00 shipped) and I own my HR21 so I want internal. I have the lid off and the unit runs very cool.

    It froze every 10 secs until I installed a jumper (5&6) as found in these forums (thanks!) which throttles down to 150mb/sec. --NOW-- The remote works great (before it was very non responsive) the screens are quick to refresh and I get just an occasional blip (maybe every 45-60 secs).

    The drive formatted automatically when installed but that was without the 5/6 jumper which i did after ..do I need to re-format somehow with the jumper? --or-- Is there another adjustment or jumper needed?

    Thanks for your time, KJ
     
  11. Sep 3, 2010 #811 of 3433
    Rich

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    HR21what? To help you we need to know the whole model. HR21-xxx. Makes a difference. They are not all the same.

    If I remember correctly, that HDD you bought is actually an EADS HDD, which is a very good drive. You shouldn't have problems with it, especially with the jumper on to slow down the transfer.

    I didn't think the 21 series (including the 22s and the 23) needed the jumper, but I put them on automatically and I know that they don't hurt.

    Rich
     
  12. Sep 3, 2010 #812 of 3433
    top_speed

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    Thanks Rich

    I'll check on it when I get home on the version of the HR21

    The drive just states WD Caviar Green WD20000CSRTL (on the box) 240hrs of HD / 500,000 MP3
     
  13. Sep 4, 2010 #813 of 3433
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    I put a new larger INTERNAL Hard Drive in my HR-21. I expected it to format by itself, which it did not. Came up with error message as Hard Drive Failure. What am I missing here?
     
  14. Sep 4, 2010 #814 of 3433
    Davenlr

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    Check your drives jumper settings, and sata cable
     
  15. Sep 4, 2010 #815 of 3433
    Rich

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    What drive did you put in?

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  16. Sep 4, 2010 #816 of 3433
    SomeRandomIdiot

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    Well, it was the sata connection internally, so I know the connector was working as the old drive continues to work.

    I believe it was a WD 1TB Cavair Black which are their better drives.

    Drive worked fine on a PC after the fact.

    Also, is there a recent list of external eSATA RAID 5 units that WORK with the HR2x? After losing my last Seagate 1.5TB after less than 1 year (and all the programming on them), not interested in doing that again.
     
  17. Sep 4, 2010 #817 of 3433
    Rich

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    We don't have a particular RAID box that we recommend. I would think just about any would be worth taking a shot at. I don't recall ever having read a post about any RAID box not working.

    Kinda hard to tell from your first sentence if you just forgot to attach the SATA connection after installing the HDD. Is that what happened?

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  18. Sep 4, 2010 #818 of 3433
    SomeRandomIdiot

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    Well, every search i have found with raid and esata that shows something that did work for someone does not work for anyone else - but they threads are from 2006-2008. Thus, looking for something with Raid that WILL work in 2010 with everything.

    As for the other part of question, of course I did NOT forget to connect the SATA after installing the HDD. Everything WAS connected and instead of formattiing the HR21 indicated a Hard Drive Failure and would not boot.
     
  19. Sep 5, 2010 #819 of 3433
    comp4pod

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    Rich, do you know if your DVR reboots, it boots to the Thermaltake? I have used FAP's and an antec mx-1. A reboot always goes to the internal drive with the FAPs, but will reboot back to the mx-1.
     
  20. Sep 5, 2010 #820 of 3433
    Rich

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    Yup, the docking stations take a reboot with no problem so far. My 24-500 has been randomly rebooting at night (figure that one out, I can't) and it always goes to the Thermaltake. Same thing with the TT I have on a 20-700, altho that one doesn't reboot randomly. The FAPs usually had to be restarted along with the HR after an NR. Never had that problem with an MX-1. Don't have it with my Seagate Xtremes either.

    Rich
     

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