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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Apr 7, 2011 #1201 of 3467
    Volman

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    Could be that it crept up on me and I never noticed!

    There may be some validity to the assumption above, that the number of different recordings (ex:not on season passes) ......or something like that......is a contributing factor.

    Or could be just Directv voodoo........NRs and so forth.


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  2. Apr 7, 2011 #1202 of 3467
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    I think it's just a capacity thing that I witnessed. But that was a couple years ago, maybe three years. I have no idea what would happen today, but I kinda doubt that it's been fixed. I was really surprised when the 750s did it. I didn't expect that.

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  3. Apr 7, 2011 #1203 of 3467
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    Another thing to consider is that I get a pretty steady stream of PMs asking me what to do about HRs that are slowing down and it's usually because of the amount of programming on the external HDDs.

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  4. Apr 7, 2011 #1204 of 3467
    Volman

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    In any event, we are speculating as to what causes slow downs. I think we agree that large HDDs are currently the best answer along with reboots as needed or even on a regular schedule.

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  5. Apr 8, 2011 #1205 of 3467
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    Fred, did you ever get that eBay thing straightened out?

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  6. Apr 8, 2011 #1206 of 3467
    harsh

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    The question is whether or not you benefit from going beyond 1GB of capacity. If you have to short stroke the 2GB drives to get similar performance, you might as well stick with the 1GB drives.
     
  7. Apr 8, 2011 #1207 of 3467
    Volman

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    No, Rich.The company (a big, "Top-Rated-Seller") went out of business and Ebay wouldn't do a thing! Their protection plan was garbage. I don't trust Ebay at all after their decision on this.

    I just use Amazon for anything but small $$ items. Thanks for asking!

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  8. Apr 8, 2011 #1208 of 3467
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    That would be true only if the 1TB drives don't suffer the "70% full slow-down" and larger drives DO slow at 70+%. Is there any real proof of this? Even though I have had good luck with 1TB drives, I'm unsure.


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    Had you been with me a couple years ago when RussDog started the "eSATA FAQ" thread and had seen what I saw, you would be a believer. I don't know if what I saw would be the same today, but I have to doubt that D* changed much in a feature that they don't support.

    Do the 24s have this problem? I have no idea. But, I would swear in court that what I reported at the time was true.

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  10. Apr 8, 2011 #1210 of 3467
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    You are missing the point of having larger HDDs.

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    That's a shame.

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  12. Apr 8, 2011 #1212 of 3467
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    I'd say you are right. It's logical that an almost full HDD would be slower. I'm not at the 70% mark very often, so I any have not noticed any slowness......or may have seen it as typical intermittent slowness that I HAVE noticed at times. You've had more experience with different drives, especially 2TB, so I'll defer to you on this.



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    When we were using Macs back in the middle '80s to the early '90s, we were told by the guy in charge of the beta testing that we were doing in conjunction with the Mac fiber optic network that we were using, that the Macs would use the empty portions of the HDDs as a "virtual RAM" resource.

    Later, when I was teaching PC classes one of the college's workbooks said that the less you had on the HDD, the better whatever version of Windows the book addressed would work with a relatively empty HDD for the same reason. I have nothing else to back that up with, but I've found it to be true most of the time. I gotta admit I never filled a Mac or PC HDD up, but my wife did and she had all kinds of problems with the Macs.

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    Just happened to remember that I did fill up a Cavalry 2TB RAID eSATA and it slowed down and had to be rebooted every few days. Had a hard time filling that thing up. Seemed like it took forever.

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    Is this still the case? Can anyone confirm? I'd like to pull the internal for reuse with my PC if I can. I'm running an R22, by the way. Thanks.
     
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    I am running an HR20-700 on eSATA with the internal drive disconnected. It works for me.
     
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    Can you boot up without the internal drive, only using the external device? Maybe D* changed some things. Been a long time since I tried it and failed.

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    Yes, I've been using this setup for around a year now. The internal drive is completely disconnected and it boots up with my external.
     
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    Huh. I'm surprised. They took away the ability to do that a couple years ago and, I guess, they've reinstated it. Good to know. Thanx.

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  20. Haviland

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    As a two week new first time user of a DVR, a HR24/200, I am in the collection mode. By collection I mean recording. Already I have filled 70% of my HD space. I figure when my Freebie HBO & Showtime end I'll have time to watch what I've collected.

    From what I've learned here in the couple hours of reading I've done I've decided to order a WD20EARS 2TB and a Thermaltake BlacX eSATA USB Docking Station. As I understand it once I connect the outboard HD the internal will cease to function. Questions are, "Will what I have already saved on it be lost? Can I un-plug the outboard and go back to view what's now recorded on it? Or should I plan to watch and "empty" the internal before adding the external?" Any help or tips on managing my new visual resource would certainly be appreciated. So far I'm LOVIN' the DVR, but realize I've got a lot to learn to get the most out of it.
     

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