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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. mocarob

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    What did you use to test them?
     
  2. P Smith

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  3. Rich

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    Now that I think about it, one of the five was shot. Don't remember what it did or didn't do, but I think I put a question mark on the label of one of them I thought was shot. The rest did work correctly in or on the 20-700s, just made far too much noise.

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  4. Rich

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    What a waste of money. They were all quite expensive when I bought them....:nono2:

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  5. bond111

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    Ok, question for those who know. I just recently purchased a WD My Book Essential 2tb external hard drive WDBACW0020HBK, and am trying to connect it to my HD DVR model HR20. I cannot seem to find the correct cable that runs on the backside of that hard drive(it's a SS cable, but it's real skinny and has a little notch in the middle) to a esata connector that fits on the back of my box. Anyone help me out please?
     
  6. Rich

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    I don't know what an SS cable is, but what you're looking for is an eSATA to eSATA jumper cable that goes between the My Book (not the greatest choice of an external setup) and the HR. Should have the same connector on each end of the cable. You should see an "eSATA" port on the back of the My Book that looks just like the "eSATA" port on the back of the HR.

    Is this the My Book you bought? If it is, you've bought a USB My Book and you need a SATA My Book.

    If I'm correct, you might want to purchase one of the external setups we recommend.

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  7. K4LK

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    Rich, what is the recommended setup? I have an HR24-500. Thanks!
     
  8. subeluvr

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    Rich is right on the problem... you bought a My Book which is USB and not the My Book AVR Expander eSATA/USB that you need.

    Here's what you need if you want an in the box product... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136602

    Or a TT dock with WD EURS if you want a la carte...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136783
     
  9. K4LK

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    I tried the WD DVR Expander on an HR24-500 and saw some weird behavior. On restart it, the DVR found it and formatted but kept forgetting that it was attached. I returned it.
     
  10. subeluvr

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    There seems to be some chatter about defective cables on the WD DVR Expanders.

    I have an HR24-500 and an HR24-100. I borrowed a recent production WD DVR expander from a neighbor and it worked flawlessly on both of my HRs.

    I then ordered a TT dock and a WD10EURS. Wouldn't work on either HR so I returned it. Reordered the exact pair from another vendor and experienced the same disappointment until I replaced the eSATA cable that came with the TT dock.

    See page #55 in this thread post #1365

    A valuable tip from Rich584 for those trying external drives...

    1. unplug the HR and the external device

    2. plug in the eSATA to eSATA jumper cord between the HR and external device with both power cords unplugged

    3. plug in the external device and see the power light come on

    4. wait a minute or so and then plug in the HR24-500

    5. if there is an on/off switch on the external device

    6. when you plug in the external device, you should then turn the switch on and you should see the power light come on. Then you wait a bit and plug in the HR24-500.
     
  11. Rich

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    After having the problems I've had with several 500s and external devices, I can tell you what I used. And couldn't get to work. The drive: WD EVDS 2TB using the Antec MX-1 enclosure or the Thermaltake docking station. The same thing happened on four or five 500s. Can't remember exactly. The same drives and enclosure/docking stations are working correctly right now on 20-700s. Nothing wrong with them. It appears to be a problem with the 500s and externals. I've put one of the 2TB EVDS drives in the latest 500 in place of the internal drive and it's working perfectly. I do own the 500.

    So, I don't know quite what to suggest. With all the other HRs, the EVDS and both external devices mentioned above work well, even on the 24-200 (had one) and 24-100 (read positive posts). I've asked for anyone with an external device working on a 500 to post about his/her external setup, but I've read nothing.

    I would assume that all the other "normal" WD drives that we recommend and that work on all the other HRs would have the same compatibility with the 500s. Those drives are the WD EARS, EADS and EURS. The EVDS and EURS are made with DVR use in mind.

    Try something, there's plenty of choices on the Web. Newegg, Amazon and sites like that have many out-of-the Box eSATAs such as the My Book unit. I've read good reports about the Fantom eSATAs recently. Maybe a SATA My Book would work. Maybe you can get one of the normally recommended HDDs and external devices to work.

    I'd really appreciate feedback on how you make out.

    Just make sure any external device you buy has SATA in the write up or on the box.

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  12. subeluvr

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    Rich, I know you've read something... because I have posted in multiple threads (previous page in this thread last post on the page) on this forum and in PMs to you that...

    I have had a WD DVR Expander 1tb that worked perfectly on both my HR24-100 and my HR24-500

    Second TT dock and WD10EURS combo works perfectly on both my HR24-100 and my HR24-500 once I replaced the TT eSATA cable.
     
  13. mocarob

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    I already have an esata to sata cable and a power adapter from a usb drive adapter. Can i use this to connect a drive to the hr20?
    or does a docking station have some sort of controller for the drive built in?

    I dont want to spend $50 for a dock if i dont have to.
    I can test it tomorrow night but thought somebody could fill me in before then. thanks
     
  14. Rich

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    OK, now I do remember. But I was using different eSATA cables and the same thing happened. Next time I get a 500, I'll try the eSATA cable you sent me the link for. Thought that was an HDMI cable, my bad.

    I read so many posts about external devices I can't keep them straight in my mind. Anyone else out there that I've missed?

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  15. Rich

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    I don't quite understand your post, but I don't think you can do what you want to do. I'm pretty sure USB and SATA can't be used with each other even tho you have an adapter. The docking stations do have what you need built into them. The TT docking stations do have controllers in them that allow them to be used by the HRs to expand your capacity.

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  16. subeluvr

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    I agree, but it's not too much to expect anyone looking for help to read back at least the last two or three pages in a long thread to see what the current info is because in many cases the answer to their question is in those last pages.

    Let's not forget that these are self-help forums and not do it for me forums... ;)
     
  17. subeluvr

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    Actually the TT dock is $33.99 with free shipping... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071 and Best Buy stocks them if you are near one and want to try it out.

    But, yes any power supply that will power a naked drive will do and a SATA to eSATA cable might work... and it might not. Best to try your specific hardware with your specific HR because the BEST info so far is that some drives work with some docks and some enclosures on some HR series and some don't.
     
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  19. subeluvr

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    Oops, forgot the rebate.

    My rebate card arrived 6 days after they received my documents... can't ask more than that.
     
  20. mocarob

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    Rich, I'm not trying to use any type of usb adapter. So lets skip that part.
    I have a power block I can connect to a sata HDD.

    What I really need to know is if I can connect a bare drive to the HR20 with just an esata to sata cable. Or am I lacking a drive controller thats built in to the docking station... Looks like you answered that. and thanks sub for helping too.
    I wanted to get advice from you guys with more experience before I tried it.
    I dont want to cause damage to the dvr or drive.. I think I'll try it later today..

    My dvr rebooted itself twice in the last 12hrs and reverted back to the internal drive... Looks like my cavalry 1tb might have finally bit the dust.. (had it 2-3yrs)
    I want to keep the cost down on all luxury items like this.. out of work right now.

    I was also wondering if the 2 drive docks work too. I have a couple of older sata drives (750's) that I could combine for 1.5tb..
     

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