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eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. brpostma

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    Thanks Rich!.

    I should have mentioned that post as I did read it before I posted my reply. I really wanted to make sure those all work with the HR21 as the hr21 seems to be the most fickle of the hr series.

    thanks
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  2. Rich

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    They will all work on any HR, as far as I know.

    I really don't like the whole 21 series, that includes the 22s and the 23. I have one 21-200 left and I have to say I'm deeply impressed with how it works with the new GUI. One problem the 21 series have always had is that they are slow. The new GUI really speeded up the way the 21-200 handles the Guide and Playlist and functions of that ilk.

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  3. brpostma

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    I based my skepticism of the HR21 based on this thread: (ugh i cant post the url) (the eSATA FAQ found in Tips and Resources) Looks like that information is no longer valid about the hr21 and the limited set of enclosures and drives that work with it?
     
  4. Cliff3f

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    Hi, guys.

    I just lost the hard drive in my HR22 and Directv is sending a replacement DVR and I'm thinking of installing an external drive for more capacity and no warranty voiding issues.

    I notice that the WD EARS and the newer EARX transfer rates; 3 gbps and 6 gbps. Is the newer 6gbps technology backward compatable with the 3gbps?

    Do you think there would be a real advantage of a DVR specific drive like the EURS over a generic EARX?

    I just read somewhere that the WD Intellipark that comes on some of their drives may cause a problem in DVR use. Any thoughts?

    Thanks for whatevery you have to offer.

    Regards,

    Cliff
     
  5. P Smith

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    Any quote of relevant info or a link to it ?

    Just a few posts back there was a couple posts related to differences ...
    It's the standard requirement.
     
  6. CCarncross

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    I just posted info pertaining to the new faster drives just a few posts above yours....The entire HR2x series as far I know only operate at 1.5 Gb/s anyway..if you can still get the 3Gb/s models do so, you gain absolutely nothing from a drive capable of 6Gb/s transfer rates if what you are connecting it to is not capable of using the newer transfer rate...I believe every drive I currently have in use connected to an HD DVR have Intelliseek( I think thats what you really meant) technology on them, and have been using these drives or slightly earlier models since fall of 2006, never had an issue. Where did you read this, because in 5+ years experience I've had with adding drives to my DVR's, its never come up once.
     
  7. Cliff3f

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    Thanks for the quick reply. As for the intellipark issue, I found it while doing a google search. It wasn't specific to use in DVR's but I was concerned anyway because when I searched specifically for 'intellipark' I got a lot of hits on problems. If you haven't had any problems in DVR use that is good enough for me.

    I was interested in the info on transfer speed compatablility not for the sake of looking for a higher transfer speed drive but because it looks like new drives are coming mostly in the faster 6 gbps spec. I wanted to find out if I got a very current drive with the 6 gbps spec would work with the DVR.

    Many thanks.

    Cliff
     
  8. P Smith

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    No one drive has a hardlock to 6 Gbps interface speed. By specs of SATA interface.

    So, would you like give us here a brief description of the Intellipark issue ?
     
  9. mocarob

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    If i knew how I would.
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Indirectly: by speed of files transfer ; really - by system logs.
     
  11. RunnerFL

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    If you really want to protect your recordings I'd suggest the Sans Digital MobileSTOR MS2UTN+. I just recently picked one up and this puppy is awesome (not taking into consideration the first one I got was defective).

    You can put 2 2TB drives in it and set it for RAID1, giving you 2TB of usable space (The DVRs limit), and if one drive fails you don't lose your recordings because they are on the second drive. I've messed with this a bit now and I've been able to shutdown my HR21, pull both drives out and put them each individually in a thermaltake doc and the HR21 will boot up using each one and all recordings are on both drives. I even took one drive out, removed all partitions and put it back in and it mirrored the first drive overnight.

    Now keep in mind if your DVR itself fails you still lose your recordings but with this setup if a drive fails you lose nothing.
     
  12. CCarncross

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    intellipark I don't believe comes into play unless the system tried to go to standby or hibernate. Since the current dvrs are always buffeing live video, even when off, my gut tells me the drives never go idle so they would never try to park.
     
  13. Jason Whiddon

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    Yepp.
     
  14. nsolot

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    Thanks for all the great replies to my Q.

    I have a follow up Q about the Thermaltake BlacX (which looks like a cinch to install the drive). Do you do anything to control/prevent dust from getting in the drive or the Thermaltake BlacX? Or just hit it with some compressed air every so often?
     
  15. Rich

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    All the long eSATA threads are full of info that's not valid anymore. I wouldn't go back more than four or five pages on them. What we found in that thread, if it's the one I think it is, is outdated. Almost 1,800 posts on this thread. The same with the other ones. That's an awful lot of info to wade thru, especially when you don't know what's still true and what isn't. And what's just opinions.

    In that thread you refer to, the eSATA out of the box models aren't even produced anymore.

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    So far, the WD models that have the 6Gbs transfer speed that have been tried work with the HRs. You're still only gonna get a 1.5Gbs transfer speed, tho.

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  17. Rich

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    And that's the biggest drawback about putting two very expensive HDDs in a RAID box. If the prices of the HDDs would come down to pre-flood prices, I could see using one. Even then, you can't get away from the marriage of HR and HDD to each other. Just checked the prices on Amazon and the WDs have come down a little bit.

    Rich
     
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    I've got several of them and see no dust accumulation at all on any of them.

    Rich
     
  19. RunnerFL

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    Yeah, definitely. I already had the 2TB drives or I would have waited for the prices to come down myself. Once/if they get back to where they were I may just do this on my than one DVR.
     
  20. nsolot

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    I'm jealous. I just moved the AV stand and got back there with the Shop-Vac. Loads of dust bunnies, cobwebs, and years full of things that fell behind, including a $10 roll of quarters.

    Now I have a load of red-white-yellow cables for sale on E-Bay :lol:
     

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