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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Rich

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    First step of troubleshooting: If it worked properly for a considerable amount of time, what happened to make it malfunction? What changed?

    I know a guy who used to beta test mac products. He had an office crammed with hardware and software that Apple sent him to test and test he did and problems he had. And yet, we had a whole plant full of Macintoshes that were trouble free. The only mac he had in his office that he could count on to work properly was the one he did NO beta testing on. I have no problems with my four FAPs connected to 700s. And if someone offered to make me a beta tester, I would refuse the offer. Too much like work.

    I have had six 100s since last November and hooked up an FAP to five of them. I still have the one I didn't hook up an eSATA to, my son uses it and says he has no problems with it. I am sorely tempted to hook up an FAP to it, but he doesn't screw around with my stuff and I don't screw around with his stuff. But I am sorely tempted. Oh, the other 5 100s failed for various reasons, some that could not be related to an eSATA.


     
  2. jaime2221

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    In use for 2 weeks:
    - HITACHI Deskstar 1TB (0A35155) NewEgg $321 inc tax/shipping
    - ANTEC VERIS MX-1 EBay $49 delivered

    I got the drive 2 days before the enclosure so I hooked it up
    to a PC and formatted NTSF (take a nap...) and copied and
    deleted some files. Worked fine.

    Installed in MX1, hooked to PC, still worked fine.

    Hooked to HR20-700, reset via GUI, and it worked. No hickups so
    far. Can't hear the disk spin but can hear the heads moving sometimes.
    Not enough to be annoying.

    Recorded OTA HD 3.5hr Nascar race last Sun. When I deleted it, space
    available increased by 1%. Happy.
     
  3. rjf

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    so far so good......

    got my FAP/750 and SIIG cable yesterday. the drive turned out to be a great deal after all. it's a brand new sata/usb/1394 model for $139 off ebay. now i really wish i got more than one, but i'm happy to have one at all.

    setup was simple. plugged it in, turned it on, then the hr20, and so far all is good. recorded a few shows. playback was fine. so hopefully all holds up. i've read about others where all was ok, then went south. hopefully all remains good. cautiously optimisitic


    question though -- i've read about this "IWANTMYVOD" search but don't understand. do i have to do that to enable VOD? if yes, how/where do i do it? my menu does say "on demand" but nothing happens when i select it and the VOD channels don't appear in the guide yet. the hr20 is hooked up to the net and computer for media share, which works fine. so will the VOD enable itself or is there something i need to do?

    also, i'm going to search the tips n tricks, but wondering if there's a way to get the guide to manually update to the full 14 days, or do i just have to wait for that to happen on its own?

    thanks
     
  4. ragbirch

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    Well after numerous problems with external harddrive failures,noisey external fans and failed external enclosure boards I took the plunge and replaced the internal drive. The original drive was a seagate db35 300 gig. I ordered a seagate db35 750 gig installed this morning and everything works great. Wish I had known how easy this would be in the first place. The db35 series are made for this application and are very quiet. This is the ONLY way to go. That is if you can live with 100+hr hd capacity. Got the drive at CDW for $289 and it took all of 30 minutes to install. Go for it!!
     
  5. ragbirch

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    If your going to build your own unit get the seagate db35 drives.
     
  6. BigCat

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    I thought replacing the internal hdd wasn't possible for some reason... though I never asked :-( If that's possible then no doubt that's the way to go. Isn't there any software on the internal drive needed for DVR operation other than recordings? I thought maybe that was the case.

    So you just opened the box and switched the drives? Was it painless?

     
  7. BigCat

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    also is the internal drive ATA or SATA, I see CDW has both versions, can you post a link to the one you got? thanks.

     
  8. ragbirch

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    Ok..Replacing the drive has always been possible, the problem is it voids your warranty. I bought my unit when they first came out at bb and there was no lease program. Keep this in mind. You need the sata drive. Works right out of the box. No need to format or change jumper settings. Matter of fact there are no jumpers. Putting the drive in is a breeze. The only problem is getting to it. Taking the box apart is a little more difficult. Keep in mind I am not a computer guru..I took my time and had the proper tools. You will need a set of security torx bits number one. You can get these at most home depots these days.These bits have a pin in the middle of the bit. Trust me it's worth the time and effort. Once you get it apart it's a piece of cake going back together. I sent a email to weakness.com over a year ago telling them they should do this. Well they are now. If you send them your unit they will upgrade it for $399. You also pay all the shipping costs. If you are good with your hands save $150 and do it yourself. Any other questions you know where to find me.
     
  9. pjo1966

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    I currently have an HR20 with a 750gb FreeAngent Pro connected, which works great. I'm getting a second HR20 installed next week. Is there any potential problem with the installer seeing that I have an external drive connected? I don't know whether this is officially acknowledged by DirecTV.

    Why they couldn't just ship the new HR20 is beyond me.
     
  10. ragbirch

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    No problem with the external connected.
     
  11. Rich

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    Just make sure you let the DVR sit for a day running with the internal drive and then switch to eSATA. Don't even mention the eSATA to the installer and don't let him install the new HR20. They (for the most part) know nothing. Just like D*'s CSRs. All the info and help is here in this forum.
     
  12. pjo1966

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    I'm planning on having all the cables hanging out of the cabinet, ready to go.

    I'm just curious as to why I need to let it sit for a day before hooking up the eSATA. I kind of need to get my recordings set up ASAP, and there's no point doing that until I set up the eSATA. I'm pretty sure when I got my first HR20 I hooked up the drive right after I verified that it worked using the internal drive.

    :confused:
     
  13. Lord Vader

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    You don't need to let it sit for a day to work, but it will take time to populate the guide.
     
  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Agreed - the guide will populate pretty well after about 8 hours in standby (but fully in about 24 hours).
     
  15. JorgeGVB

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    I read through this thread since I was in great need of extra recording time. I went with this setup and everything started up just fine on the first try. I will give it a few days and report back if there are any problems.
     
  16. Rich

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    Just seems to work better if you let it run for a day and have no problems. This has been my experience. Whether it continues to load info or whatever, I have had better luck with letting the things run on the internal drive overnight and then hooking up the eSATA the next day if everything works correctly. I have no idea other than my own experience why this works out better and I'm sure a lot of people have hooked up eSATAs immediately and had no problems.

    And then there was that one posting by some guy who hooked up 50 20s and never had a bit of trouble with any of them...right. Bet he sells stock for bridges on the side too.

     
  17. Rich

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    I've had problems with DVRs when I immediately hooked up an eSATA after going thru the set up. Just my experience. But I have hooked up eSATAs to 20s about 20-30 times and now I always let them sit a day and get comfortable and adjusted to their new home. Of course I also believe in the Gods of Baseball, so ya gotta take my advice and opinions with a grain of salt.
     
  18. Rich

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    But do we truly know what lurks in the chips and processors of computers?
     
  19. reubenray

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    I am going to be out of town on vacation and am thinking of adding an additional hard drive to handle all of my recordings, but have a few questions.

    1) Is there a list of what hard drives will work?
    2) Will I be able to remove it at some point and revert back to the original hard drive?
    3) Will I be able to install the external hard drive onto my HTPC if I am able to do #2 above?
     
  20. davemayo

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    This thread lists which drives/cables are working for folks.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=92029

    You can remove the eSATA and reboot the HR20 to get back to the internal drive.

    Don't know the answer to #3.
     

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