Let me make a long story very short. I was asked to relocate to a DMA where D* doesn't have any local channels (a very small DMA). I did find out that they do offer an off air antenna install for $100 (not too unreasonable). I have 2 - HR21s, R22 and R15. D* charges $100 for two additional receivers to be converted to off air capable. I am going to see if D* will credit me or give me equivilent programming discounts for the $200 ($100 for off air antenna and $100 for the upgraded receivers). I have never taken a rentention off in 4 years and I auto pay every month. My question if not really about the off air but does any one have expierience with D* installing off air antenna in non-local in local markets (basically markets where D* does not offer locals). I haven't dealt with off air for many years but I have no other real choice and I won't sign up with Dish since they are missing the CBS affiliate here anyway and the local cable company is very experensive for what I want (plus I already have 4 dvrs anyway). Any assistance with off air installs done by D* would be appreciated. Also to clarify I have another small issue, the house I live in is brick and roof is metal (I do have a patio area where that part of the exterior is an actual dry wall and two dish network dishes are already there, so I might be ok there, but coax is going to be interesting). Thanks in advance!