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Experimental Small Slimline3 Dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Matt9876, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. Jan 6, 2011 #321 of 463
    jmikestock

    jmikestock Mentor

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    I don't really know what you mean by tech specs. I just took a DISH 1000.2 and attempted to position a SL3 LNB in exactly the same position as the removed DISH LNB. Nothing technical about it.

    The LNB horns are totally different so you have to look for another way to put the DirecTV LNB in the same position as the one removed. What I posted is a result of my best effort. I don't know anything else to say other than what has been posted.
     
  2. robsmithmortgage

    robsmithmortgage New Member

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    This message is to Jim. What type of device do you use to aim your dish?
     
  3. intruder351

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    Installation includes SL-3 non-SWM LNB mounted to Phase III 18 X 20 reflector using H23/600 receiver. Installation is located in Sebring, FL. After aiming dish at 101, even transponders show 80s and 90s signal strengths while odd transponders show 60s signal strengths from 101. 103 transponders show signal strengths only in the 50s while 99 transponders show no signal. No amount of alignment (azim, elev, tilt) effort improves theses signals. Cable is connected directly from dish to receiver. Getting local SD and HD with no issues. For national HD channels, only getting ESPNU HD. I am interested in receiving national HD channels beamed from both 99 and 103, but mostly from 103. My dish alignment tool is an Accutrac Pro II. Reset receiver with no improvement. Setup used is Slimline 3 with multiswitch. What are suggestions for improving reception of HD national channels? Get the dish aligned properly? LNB issue? receiver issue? What else?:confused:
     
  4. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    You'll solve your issue by using the proper dish (reflector) instead of a hacked Phase III.
     
  5. schneid

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    I am using a "hacked" Phase III with SL3 and only lose about 6 pts. Low 90's off 101 and low 80's off 99 and 103.

    I am in Northwest so maybe the shot angle is much different.
     
  6. doctor j

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    The original intent of this thread was for "proof of concept" and to devise a temporary ,more portable solution for tailgating, RV usage or other mobile situations.

    The phase III / SL-3 LNB is NOT considered adequate for permanent intallation. It can be done. Often it works very well. However it's limitations should be recognized and should not be expected to give permanent Slimline replacement results.

    Doctor j
     
  7. intruder351

    intruder351 New Member

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    Got 'er done! Dish alignment was off. Signal levels now in 80s and 90's for all 101 transponders, 70s for 99 and 103 transponders. Acceptable for my RV application. Getting all local and national HD channels to which I subscribe.:grin::)
     
  8. schneid

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    That a boy. Glad you didn't listen to the naysayers here.
     
  9. ndole

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    Saying that you should use the ODU designed for a particular application makes you a naysayer? :rolleyes:
     
  10. schneid

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    I think it's pretty obvious that an SL3/5 on a Slimline is ideal but that is/was not point of this thread. As an RV'er I was looking for a less cumbersome alternative to the Slimline.

    I found the answer here as did many others. Plus it's fun. When warm comes back, I am going to try swapping in a Dish 1000.2. I've, God forbid, rooted my Droid too! I also tear "do not remove" tags off mattresses.
     
  11. ndole

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    It's not ideal, it's correct.
    What sort of TV are you using on your tailgate/rv that is so huge and great that you need MPEG4 programming for anything other than LiLs anyhow (IF you're in an MPEG4 only market)? And if you don't, why not use an 18" ODU?
     
  12. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    SD looks like CRAP on even my small 19". I wouldnt watch it, and sure wouldnt want fellow tailgaters to watch it. HD on a 19" monitor looks fantastic in comparison. Try it yourself.
     
  13. schneid

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    Gee, our "Experimental Small Slimline3 Dish " thread has gone south. I pay my bill and if I want to watch HD in a tent on a 12" display with a pie pan for a dish, that's my business.

    Thanks to those who have helped us set up our quick and dirty HD installs. I apologize for all of all of us that some self-appointed DirecTV policemen find us other than "correct". Sorry some have a problem with that.
     
  14. humanjas

    humanjas Cool Member

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    Are you serious? It took 15 minutes to swap the LNB and another 10 minutes to aim the dish correctly the first time. And I would in no way consider myself a satellite expert. However, I easily recognize the quality difference between SD and HD on my two 22" tv's. I consider my 25 minute time investment well worth it for the six tailgating Saturdays a year.
     
  15. sweep49

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    You can't be serious. What an inappropriate question this is in 2011.
     
  16. schneid

    schneid Godfather

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    Do think it is okay that we watch in color?
     
  17. ndole

    ndole Problem Solver

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    Seriously :D
     
  18. intruder351

    intruder351 New Member

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    The phase III / SL-3 LNB setup for my RVing app is giving me HD viewing which I much prefer over SD. Very pleased with this "experiment" thus far. As expected, did see some reception break up during recent heavy rain and winds, but disturbance lasted only a few minutes. This experimental setup has been related to other RVers here in the park.
     
  19. schneid

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    I anticipate come summer, there will be shortage of PhaseIII's. This mod is so simple most anyone wit can do it.
     
  20. Feb 4, 2011 #340 of 463
    schneid

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    I just picked up a "Dish" 1000.2 off eBay. I intend to swap it in in place of the Phase III as a poster said the results are better on the 99 and 103. It is roughly the same size but 3" wider.

    What is encouraging is that the bolt pattern matches that of the Phase III so that is one challenge behind me. Probably won't take for a spin for a few months as I want to be some place warm and stationary so I can play with arm angles and lengths. But then, maybe I'll get lucky and it will be fine just the way it is.

    Got to do something about the unholy "Dish Turbo HD" logo too. Don't want to advertise for the dark side.
     

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