1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

External Hard Drive for Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by sliderbob, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    17,054
    311
    Jan 4, 2006
    Any time you use an adapter to go from one type of connection to another you are losing speed, period. The speeds you are thinking of are when you use the correct connectors with the correct devices. Also, if you're going from a faster medium, which you claim, to a slower medium, which you claim, you're creating a bottleneck.

    With the DirecTV DVRs you need to use an enclosure that already has eSATA. Not some rigged up concoction where adapters are used.
     
  2. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    But this is the point you Gus are missing. Is not not a "rigged up" connection. The eSATA (if it existed) would connect DIRECTLY to the drive. Is not much of an "adaptor" but much like an interface. There would be no difference if the drive came enclosed with an eSATA interface.
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,588
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Then let me share my 2 cents:
    - you'll not find any ready-to-use enclosures without internal controller what convert SATA interface/cmds of internal drive from/to USB/eSATA/FIreWire/TB external host;
    - these enclosures have no provision to change the controller (without EE knowledge and some work);
    - there are some sort of "external" enclosure (one sample is EasySWAP box what I used for 622/922 last years);
    - for DTV DVR (or other like OTA DVR CM-7400) it would be a) easy; b)reliable;c) cheaper if there was an enclosure without any controller, just a case with a fan and short cable inside: HDD's SATA to eSATA connector. Personally, I did lobotomize one of those, Seagate FreeAgent type; it worked much better without internal controller.

    I wrote about this tidbits a few times here ... but :( ppl not searching and not reading ...
     
  4. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    17,054
    311
    Jan 4, 2006
    If you're using an adapter because the enclosure doesn't have eSATA output, which you are promoting, then it IS a rigged up connection.
     
  5. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    Wow, you just don't get it, right? :bang

    "The eSATA (if it existed) would connect DIRECTLY to the drive". meaning the hard drive will be housed in enclosure with only eSATA. no adaptor whatsoever. "Is not much of an "adaptor" but much like an interface"
     
  6. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    17,054
    311
    Jan 4, 2006
    "if it existed", in this case it doesn't. Also, above you were talking about using thunderbolt, that would most certainly require an adapter and be a rigged up connection.
     
  7. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    OMG, IT does not. I said that, it was a mistake, ohhh wait, you choose to deliberately skip that part in an effort to keep the charade…
     
  8. Jacob Braun

    Jacob Braun King of Awesome

    1,158
    166
    Oct 5, 2011
    Tulsa, OK
    Maybe this will clear up some confusion.
    This is a GoFlex base. All it does is convert SATA to your interface of choice. An eSATA GoFlex base would convert SATA to...eSATA. In other words it wouldn't be an electrical conversion, just a physical one. You can even stick a normal SATA bare drive on a GoFlex base and it works.
     

    Attached Files:

  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,588
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    I see you didn't get it ... please re-read post#43

    there is no "base" it's a integral part of GoFlex; you can't 'change it", you must buy NEW GoFlex with desired interface (if it exist)
    "conversion" ... oh man ! see post#43
     
  10. Jacob Braun

    Jacob Braun King of Awesome

    1,158
    166
    Oct 5, 2011
    Tulsa, OK
    :nono2:

    OK, actually you can make a GoFlex work with any DirecTV system easily. You convinced me to find a solution.
    You would need this: http://www.addonics.com/products/aadcpac12v.php AASAPS
    Which would get you power to the drive.
    And this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120130
    Which would convert the drive's SATA interface to an eSATA cable.

    And here's a picture of the base of a GoFlex drive with if you still don't get it...

    It's not branded as a Seagate solution but it does the exact same thing if such a solution did exist.
     

    Attached Files:

  11. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    17,054
    311
    Jan 4, 2006
    The only thing I'm skipping, from now on, are your posts....
     
  12. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    No you NOT…..
     
  13. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    Go right ahead…. !rolling
     
  14. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    At least someone is smart enough to understand…. :righton:
     
  15. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,588
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    1st - I have it, the GoFlex USB type, so don't worry
    2nd - I have the cables {L-I} and using them often more then you could imagine :D
    3rd - I'm using not just "your invented" contraption (it would qualify as Mickey Mouse job) but many different , include similar ad-hock type but for short tests - no one would recommend such umm "smart" solution for DVR !
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,588
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
  17. Beerstalker

    Beerstalker Hall Of Fame

    3,515
    66
    Feb 9, 2009
    Peoria, IL
    Sorry, but you are wrong, you can change it out, and they do sell different ones so you can do so.

    Here's one for using it with Firewire:
    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-GoFlex-Desktop-Adapter/dp/B003KGBBRM/ref=pd_sim_pc_13

    Here's one for Thunderbolt:
    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-Thunderbolt-Adapter-STAE129/dp/B009HQCAPQ

    And USB 3.0.
    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-GoFlex-Desktop-Adapter/dp/B003KGBBRW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368112595&sr=1-1&keywords=seagate+freeagent+goflex+desk+desktop+adapter+usb+3.0

    They make an eSata one for the portable 2.5" Goflex Drives
    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Freeagent-Goflex-Upgrade-Cable/dp/B003N3DUEE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368112915&sr=1-1&keywords=goflex+esata+adapter

    But not the 3.5" desk version He wouldn't be the first person looking for a way to hook his GoFlex up with an eSata dock. I found this thread right on Seagate's own forums where a few people were asking them to make one.
    http://forums.seagate.com/t5/GoFlex-GoFlex-Desk-GoFlex-Pro/Why-there-is-no-GoFlex-Desk-eSata-adapter/td-p/114150
     
    2 people like this.
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,588
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Well, while you right in general, for particular thread it's still not feasible. :(
    Quota of Seagate person from that thread:


    I talked to our engineers about this, and there won't be an eSATA module for the GoFlex Desk drive.
    The reason behind it is that eSATA is an older and slower interface, compared to USB3.0.
     
  19. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia. Finally somebody call them out on how it is….

    Awesome :righton:
     
  20. peds48

    peds48 Genius. DBSTalk Club

    19,093
    993
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    so this makes it wrong??????
     

Share This Page