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External Hard Drive ?'s

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by adamson, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Umm, the format is "standard" for MS only; there are many different file OSes: like MAc HPFS, Linux's EXT2/3/4, XFS, RaiserFS, JFFS, ZFS, SquashFS, etc, etc, etc ...
     
  2. doubleatheman

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    Not directly related but I ordered a 2tb WD20EVDS today, in anticipation of my New DVR I am getting tomorrow. (To be used internally)

    * I know I am breaking the TOS
    * I have replaced literally hundreds of computer hard drives in my life (its part of my job)
    * I do not want another plugged in device in my living room
    * Why spin the internal drive If I cant even use the space on it.
    * Many external drives do not spin down when not in use.
    * Man external drives introduce spinup time lag (if the do spin down when not in use )(at least this is the case for desktops (I know nothing about DVR's)
    *External drives are slightly more expensive.
     
  3. Mike Bertelson

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    If you wish to violate the Lease Addendum that’s your prerogative but I’m not sure it’s such a good idea to announce it to the world (or our little part of it anyway)...I’m just sayin’ :grin:

    Unless you unplug the DVR the drive is always working. When you push the power button it actually goes into standby. The lights are off and it doesn’t output but it’s till buffering the live tuner and will record as normal. Internal or external it doesn’t matter; they’re always spinning because they’re always working. Conversely, you don’t have to worry about “spinup time lag”.

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  4. Richierich

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    And they are Noisier and when you Reboot if the eSATA Controller is a little slow to recognize the Drive the DVR Boots up with the Internal Drive without letting you know.
     
  5. CCarncross

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    1. Irrelevant
    2. The internal in a DVR doesnt either.
    3. 2 makes this irrelevant as well.

    As has already been mentioned, why you would actually announce in a public forum that you plan on violating the TOS and don't care is not the brightest idea.
     
  6. adamson

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    The external drive will be here today, how do you hook it up?
     
  7. The Merg

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    - Make sure the drive is in its enclosure. :)
    - Perform a menu reset on the DVR
    - When the DVR powers off completely, but before it starts rebooting, unplug it
    - Connect the drive to the DVR
    - Plug in the drive
    - When it is powered up, plug in the DVR

    - Merg
     
  8. dpeters11

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    Maybe he'll get a HR24 :)
     
  9. Rich

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    Depends on the content. The 100 hours of MPEG4 recordings is a valid guesstimate. Some content takes up more space than other content. You're usually better off with a larger HDD, from 1.5TB to 2TB than the 1TB HDDs, by the way.

    Rich
     
  10. Rich

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    As an aside, must you keep changing avatars? I like this one. Hard to tell who you're talking to when the avatar changes. :lol:

    Rich
     
  11. The Merg

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    That would be about right, as OTA is generally MPEG-2, while DirecTV HD is now MPEG-4. You will usually get about half the recording time with MPEG-2 content compared to MPEG-4.

    - Merg
     
  12. Rich

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    No, you're just making the mistake of being logical. Wait till you get close to 20TBs of recording capacity and realize that D* is using a TB of that space. :)

    It's not gonna change, I think.

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  13. Rich

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    I'd just delete the programs. There's no reason to keep them. And the new HR won't cause the programs to be deleted. If you don't delete them, they'll just take up space and you'll find yourself forgetting and trying to view them. No reason to put the HDD on a computer, the next HR will format that drive so that it is the partner in the marriage.

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  14. Rich

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    Your reasoning is valid and your HR will/should perform better with a large internal. If you get a 24-200 the EVDS drive will not fit in the bracket for the HDD. The 200 uses a Seagate Pipeline HDD that is slimmer. Modifications to the bracket can be made to allow the use of the EVDS drive but that would be very obvious should you have to send the HR back if there is something wrong with it. I have an owned 200 and have few problems with the external docking station that I use.

    Seagate only had 1TB Pipelines available the last time I looked and they are recommended for DVRs as are the EVDS series of WD drives.

    External drives on the HRs don't spin down when not in use. The HRs are really always on.

    A suggestion, if I may: Ask these questions by PM to someone who seems knowledgeable about the HDDs and HRs. The Mods frown on these discussions for the obvious reasons and you're better off not posting about your intentions on the open forum.

    Rich
     
  15. E91

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    Well, its not like he is using his real name and posting his D* account number.

    In any case, I think the above poster will find that replacing an internal HD is not as easy as it sounds, given some of the proprietary features of the the devices. Its not like the old TIVO units, where even a uninformed guy like me could do it.
     
  16. doubleatheman

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    I was also under the impression that the poll somewhere else on this form let's several hundred others say they have the intent of doing so.

    Im guessing it's a private poll.

    So saying so, not so smart, but the most you know is my zip. (don't go googling my name)
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

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    I think the real intent of the other poster was to share the information as to aid someone from unknowingly violate the warranty/services agreement.
     
  18. doubleatheman

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    Well if the Hr24 needs bracket modification(if I get the 24), then I will use the esata, seeing how the drive doesn't spin down apparently. Do I need to use a esata dock deal? Because I do have several sata to esata connectors.I plan to plug the drive with that one cable directly to the DVr. All I need now is a external data power supply, those are like $14 on Newegg I may do that.
     
  19. Rich

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    It's easy. Not quite as easy as the TiVos, but certainly not a difficult task. Takes less than a half hour and that's if everything goes wrong.

    Rich
     
  20. Rich

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    I don't think the 500's bracket needs modification, I know the 200 won't take an EVDS without drilling a few holes in the bracket, where there is just barely enough room to do that. I've not read anything about the 100. I was really disappointed when I opened up my 200, which I own, and saw that very slim Pipeline HDD.

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