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Fear and Loathing in my 721

Discussion in 'Standard Definition Receiver Support Forum' started by garypen, Aug 5, 2004.

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  1. TNGTony

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    As to the optical cable, I have connected the same cable to another device and it works fine. As I said, I'm getting PCM audio from the 721 via the optical cable. Its not "losing bits" :)

    I really like the 721. I've not had any other issues with it so far. After a month of ownership, I'm still happy with it.

    See ya
    Tony
     
  2. joebird

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    Tony: sorry, I missed that detail in your post. Thanks for the view on your 721.

    Simon: thanks for the info on the DPPTwin LNBF. I'll look into it.
     
  3. veith

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    I recently upgraded from a 508 to a 721. I orginally purchased the 508 with some small trepidation because of quite a number of negative posts about their reliability. It was very reliable for me. There was an occasional bug or glitch, but they were so minor and infrequent I don't even remember what they were.

    The 721 has been a slightly different story. I have experienced quite a few annoying but generally minor problems and bugs.

    All in all I still give a big thumbs up to moving from a 508 to a 721 because of all the capabilities this box has over the 508.

    Best regards,
    Charles
     
  4. Bob Haller

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    My 721s green bar is missing much of the time, fixed by rebooting. I should set up a circuit for twice daily reboots:(

    A new day a new bug:(
     
  5. larrystotler

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    I realize that the 721 supports the DD output, but I didn't think that there was actually that much DD on dish to begin with. What software are you running?

    As for my own 721, I say get rid of DP and go legacy. At least in my case, it seems to be working MUCH better than before(of course, now that I got those 2 30" dishes up, I'd better not see ANY Rainfade...... :D )
     
  6. TNGTony

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    The 721 I have is running the current sortware. I have Showtime, HBO and Starz. All 6 of those channels have quite a bit of DD 5.1 the rest is DD2.0 or PCM. (channels 300, 303, 318, 319, 350 and 351). Many of the programs I watch are sent with DD5.1 (Dead Like Me, Sopranos, movies, etc). Ironically, the Dishplayer 7200 I still have works like a charm for the DD. The only glitch with the 7200 is it will not output DD audio if you start playing a DD recording while the Dishplayer is recording something else. Once the unit stops recording the DD pops right up. Or if you start playing a DD recording before the 7200 starts recording another program it's fine. It just can't start a DD soundtrack playback while it's recording. Ahhh, the wonders of science.

    That is why I originally asked in another thread if the 721 had a similar bug/workaround. It doesn't seem to be the case.

    See ya
    Tony
     
  7. craig559

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    My 721 is great'No glitches, I have been lucky I guess. mY ORIGINAL 7
    100 dISHPLAYER WAS BASICALLY GOOD TOO.
     
  8. Specks and Reds

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    Which shows other than some ppv or some of the Premium channels like HBO, actually are fed in DD? I only receive DD for the movies that I just mentioned. Is this correct, or do other (normal) channels feed in DD?

    Didn't know, thought I'd ask.

    Thanks
     
  9. TNGTony

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    The channels mentioned at the top of the page, many PPV channels and the HDTV channels are the only ones that have DD audio right now.

    See ya
    Tony
     
  10. larrystotler

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    I believe that if it is in DD, the info screen will say DD where the closed caption, or CC, is usually at, yes?
     
  11. TNGTony

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    Yes, DD programs are labeled DD. However, a program labeled DD does not mean it is a DD 5.1 program. It could be DD2.0, or the very rare DD3.1.

    See ya
    Tony
     
  12. mook

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    don't forget penn & teller bullsh*t is in dd 5.1
     
  13. xcband

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    As Ronnie always said.... WELL !!! , I had many problems with my 721 (as far as switch recognition etc in the setup phase ) when I used it with legacy feeds, and hardly any problems at all since I switched over to a Dual Dish Pro Lnbf a few months ago.....

    RAINFADE..... I live on the Gulf Coast in Alabama and heavy downpours resulting in rainfade/signal loss are very common here thru the summer months...... So soon after my Superdish Upgrade was done, I pulled the 105 lnb off the Superdish (Signal Strength was about 65 for the 105 lnb on the superdish ) and installed it on a Six Foot Spun Aluminum Dish I had back in the C-Band satellite days.... The Signal Strength on the 105 lnb was now up to about 95...... However, I must tell ya that Rainfade while somewhat less often is still an issue even with the 6 foot dish...... So with all that said I doubt you will see much if any improvement regarding rain fade with your two 30 inch dishes..... Oh BTW, I hooked my 721 back up to my dish 500 for 119 and 110 satellites.... the dish 500 gives a stronger signal than does the superdish..... While the Superdish was the 1 dish solution from dishnetwork it sure leaves a lot to be desired, especially when signal is lower on the 119 and 110 feeds..... Oh well, thats my 2 cents worth Have a good day. :)
     
  14. SimpleSimon

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    I'd sure love to know the details of how you mounted the FSS LNB on a big dish - and I think others would, too. :)

    Maybe you could register and join us officially - you probably have a lot to contribute.

    And then you could start a new thread regarding the conversion - hopefully with uploaded pictures. :)
     
  15. larrystotler

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    Good call SImon. I hope he does continue to contirbute.

    As for the 30" dishes, all commercial installs require a larger dish in order to keep rainfade to a minimum. They start at 24" round and get bigger. As to whether it will work, we have yet to have a good storm so I can see what happens. Figures! :D

    As for the SD, I am also not too thrilled. I don't like mounting E* LNBs on a Starband Dish, and I have seen that it's as bad or worse on an SD. Just because it has a bigger reflector doesn't mean squat if it is not angled properly. And trying to have the same setup for the whole country is goofy as well. Starband dishes require spacers in certain areas for the E* LNBs, so I don't see how E* thinks they have a better system.
     
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