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First customer Dish1000?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by SimpleSimon, Sep 19, 2005.

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  1. SimpleSimon

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    You'd have to go to "the other place" for the signal strength information.

    I'm under the impression (from another moderator here) that it can't even be mentioned here any more.

    As for aiming - the book numbers worked as well as could be expected. Had to drop elevation a touch - but that can be due to mast being even a hair off bubble. There's so much slop in E* dishes that the numbers are just starting places.

    To answer someone else's question, 119 comes in big-time - being in the center of that wide pan. Expect 110 to be just a tad lower than on a D500.
     
  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    There is nothing wrong with you posting signal strengths that you have seen while installing D1000's and other users doing the same. I disconnected my 129 sat this evening or I'd post today's figures. (Of course, they wouldn't be D1000 received signal strengths.)

    JL
     
  3. Mark Lamutt

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    :confused: I have no idea what you're talking about with that statement, Simon. I ask the question because I had to set my elevation 4 degrees lower than what the book said, and the skew 2 degrees lower (I think) to pick up 129 with it. I'm as peaked as I can get it, and I'm still only seeing SS in the upper 60s, with 119 at about 100 and 110 in the mid to upper 80s. My mast is dead plumb (checked with 3 different levels) in all directions. I just wanted to know if you were able to do better than that SS wise.

    If so, I think I may have a slightly bent mast.
     
  4. SimpleSimon

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    You guys misunderstand.

    I've already spent a considerable amount of time on this, including some results having to do with the 'variability' of the signal - which I expect to settle in by Sept. 27th.

    The results are at "the other place" (I'm NOT going to duplicate the work) - the one that apparently causes posts to be deleted if it's mentioned - something about a new policy since your forum was bought out. :(
     
  5. James Long

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    You could say that you are getting signal strengths from 61 to 98 depending on transponder and that the signal strengths seem to be varying.

    JL
     
  6. HDJunky

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    MARK the strength for 129 on my 1000 was coming in at "81", much lower than 110/119 which were "98".. These are the numbers i was getting right after the ever so great "SIMPLESIMON" set me up 6 days ago.. Well hope the question has been answered for you Mark, since i was the first 1000 customer in Colorado springs or possibly in the whole state of Colorado, and "SimpleSimon" deserves to be recongnized as the first installer to Set a Dish1000 up, atleast in the state of Colorado! SIMON RULES!!!!!
     
  7. Mark Lamutt

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    Thanks, guys. That's what I wanted to know.
     
  8. SimpleSimon

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    And now that JL made it easy for me to copy/paste my work from the other site, for those that can't get there, ;) here it is:

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    OK. I just hung a D1000 on my test tree. I have NOT tried to peak it - just used the beeper on 119 for "good" signal. Here's the results using an 811:

    NOTE: THREE sets of numbers. While I was typing the cities, at 19:00MDT, things changed! First set is before, second set is 19:00-19:10, third set is 19:15. Nobody touched the dish (note the concsistency on 110/119). Maybe E* is tuning the bird - or maybe just ... who knows

    119-11: 98/98/98
    119-12: 94/93/94
    110-11: 84/84/84
    110-12: 80/78/80
    (not bad for a quickie "hack" aim )

    129-04: 58/74/61 (Columbus, OH; Clarksburg/Weston, WV, Charlottesville, VA)
    129-05: 66/79/66 (Sioux City, IA; Dayton, OH)
    129-06: 80/89/80 (Voom)
    129-07: 71/80/71 (Wausau, WI; Wichita Falls, TX/Lawton, OK)
    129-09: 82/93/85 (Voom)
    129-10: 82/89/80 (Voom)
    129-12: 76/87/79 (Voom)
    129-13: 00
    129-14: 67/72/68 (Houston, TX)
    129-15: 76/80/75 (Chicago, IL)
    129-16: 60/73/63 (Denver, CO)
    129-17: 59/83/75 (Erie, PA)
    129-18: 63/68/63 (Columbus, OH; Charleston/Huntington, WV)
    129-20: 60/73/64 (Richmond, VA; San Francisco, CA)
    129-21: 00 (San Francisco, CA)
    Transponder map credit to: http://www.dbstalk.com/ekb/129list.htm
    I didn't write down every little city detail.
    My location is 10 miles E of the absolute center of Colorado.

    REMEMBER: 129 is NOT "official" until Sept. 27th - E* is free to muck around until then.

    Just tested using a 625 with DPP Separator. Checked in just fine, with strengths on both tuners 1-4 points less than the 811 on 110/119. As of 19:30MDT, they seem to be messing around with 129 again, so I can't be certain about comparing strengths between the 811 & 625.

    Note that the 625 "Details" page did NOT show the 129 bird. Dunno why.
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    P.S. The bolding at the top was to assure those that care, that no copyright infringement is taking place. :rolleyes: Also note that I gave Tony appropriate credit.
     
  9. Jacob S

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    With those that will be having a Dish1000 installed but have two legacy receivers, what is going to be done about the second legacy receiver? Can a DishPro Adaptor be used on the second legacy receiver?
     
  10. James Long

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    If you are looking for the remainder of the posts about linking rules please see this thread over in the Admin forum.

    If you came here to discuss the Dish1000 please continue here. :D

    Thanks!

    James Long
     
  11. bigrick

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    Best just to use a Dp adapter on both legacy receivers in case the customer decides to unplug or discontinue one of them, it just saves a service call in the future.
     
  12. Jacob S

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    I am asking if a second legacy can even be used with a Dish1000 if it is even possible.
     
  13. BobaBird

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    I don't know. From http://www.dishretailer.com/dpp/dpptwin.pdf
    When connecting a Legacy receiver, a second receiver must also be connected to power the LNBF:
    • If the second receiver is DISH Pro or DP Plus, the DP Plus Twin will be fully functional.
    • If the second receiver is Legacy, the LNB IN port (for a second satellite dish) cannot be used.
    So, will using the DP Adapter satisfy the requirement of having a DP receiver connected to be able to use the LNB IN?
     
  14. Jacob S

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    Thats what I am wondering about. Perhaps when the swapouts are performed they will have customers that previously had a SuperDish system use one of the legacy adaptors to supply power to the switch while those that never had a SuperDish before would have to be supplied the legacy adaptor if they can be used.
     
  15. bigrick

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    [/QUOTE]So, will using the DP Adapter satisfy the requirement of having a DP receiver connected to be able to use the LNB IN?[/QUOTE]

    Yes, even if you only use 1 receiver and a Dp adapter it is fully functional.
     
  16. webbydude

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    Here's one thing all the people with Legacy receivers need to remember. Most of the Legacy receivers out there will NOT work with the 129 satellite. The software won't allow it. Kinda screws a lot of the SD105 customers out there
     
  17. Jacob S

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    If the legacy receiver works with 105/121 then it should work on 129.
     
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    And here I thought you were REALLY tall Simon.
     
  19. Rob Glasser

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    I finally installed my Dish1000 over the weekend and while my signal strength on 110 and 119 went up slightly over my Dish500, I'm not all that impressed with 129. Depending on which transponder I pick my signal strength on 129 bounces between 55 - 66. It stays locked but I'm worried about rain fade. I'm up in the Seattle WA area. Just trying to figure out if I've got this thing tuned as good as I'm going to get or if there is anything I can do to improve it. Is this strength going to be solid? I'd hate to pay for Voom and have the channels unreliable. I tried to get a stronger signal but can't seem to change it. My 119 strength is in the low 90's and my 110 is in the low to mid 80's.
     
  20. Mike D-CO5

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    I got a 97 strength on 119w and 85 signal on 110 sat. I am getting a signal in the 80's on 129sat. I used a satellite finder and peaked the dish on 119w like the manual said to. I bought the dish 1000 from www.dishdepot.com for 49.99 . I already had the dishproplus twin and dishpro lnb. It came with a instructional manual and skews, elevations and azmiths for all zipcodes. It was very easy when I used a satellite finder I bought at the same place for 29.99. No Tax if you live outside of Florida.
     
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