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Food police confiscate 4-year old’s lunch, bill parents

Discussion in 'The OT' started by cj9788, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Wait... what?

    Did you type what you meant there? It sounds like you are saying that speed limits are bad... to which the only solution would be to remove speed limits and let everyone drive whatever speed they want, like on the Autobahn.

    You didn't really mean that, did you?
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

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    Meanwhile, back on topic...

    I had a feeling we weren't getting the whole story. My gut said that it was probably not a law/regulation that required anything but rather an overzealous local-level person who overstepped. On top of that it appears the original story was a near fabrication in that most of what it said happened (kid's lunch was taken away, parent charged, etc.) didn't even happen.

    I have though all along that I'm ok with regulations that say the school should provide a proper lunch... and that it would similarly be ok if a teacher observed a student who didn't seem to bring a good lunch to offer to add additional food to that from the cafeteria. The part I would still disagree with that seems to be part of the policy, though... IF a teacher decided to supplement a packed lunch, that should be a teacher/school decision and the parent should not be charged for it. Instead a note should go home and attempts to talk to the parent should be made to see if there is a reason.

    Like the note about the kid not eating vegetables... what if the kid was allergic to peanuts and the school gives him/her something fried in peanut oil? That could be disastrous.
     
  3. cj9788

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    Well 10A NCAC 09 .0901 states that a child who brings ameal that does not meet USDA standards must be given a meal that does. I for one do not care if the school took her lunch or not, if it was a teacher or a state inspector or not. bottom line is they gave her a school lunch when the parents made her her own lunch. This child is four years old most four year olds will do what the school tells them or what they think the school is telling them. Sure she still had her home lunch but how is a four year old supposed to know it is okay to eat from both lunches. I am not being political I could careless what FOX news is saying or what Rush is saying. What angers me about this story is this is how it begins. First they control what kids can bring from home, then they eliminate home lunches altogether, next thing you know they will be closing Mc Donalds and other fast food joints as a health hazard. SCREW THAT.

    For me the story is they provided a lunch when the parents provided a lunch because someone in the school was following 10A NCAC 09 .0901 and deemed all or part of the home lunch as unhealthy. And I don't care if the home lunch was candy and ding dongs, the school needs to back the hell out of peoples lives period.
     
  4. sigma1914

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    Pure FUD.
     
  5. cj9788

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    And Merg yes i truly believe that speed limits were lowered way back when first because of the oil crisis, then the leaders saw the huge revenue that was generated from speeding tickets. When the oil crisis was over the speed limits stayed at 55 because of the money generated, not because of the "safety" factor.
     
  6. The Merg

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    Read again... I am in support of speed limits. I was saying that it would be hard to find someone that thinks all speed limits are bad. Although, I probably could have stated it simply like that. :)

    - Merg
     
  7. spartanstew

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    Yeah, when you throw the word "objects", in there it gives it the opposite meaning.
     
  8. B Newt

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    Here is another side of the story. What would happen if the "official" lunch cause the kid to get sick or cause an allergic reaction. If it was my kid I would be the schools worst nightmare!
     
  9. SeaBeagle

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    When I was in school we ate what out mums put in the lunchbox and the school officials never did anything about it.

    How can some s hook officials tell kids what to eat or what. It to eat, it is the kids body not the school officials.

    Schools are becoming like communist.
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    Wait... why is the "first" just at the point of controlling what kids bring from home?

    Why isn't the "first" the fact that they force you to send your kids to school in the first place?

    Nobody complaining about that governmental control, since it gives parents a "break" from their kids during the day... but it really is the foot in the door towards controlling what your kids do, think, eat, etc...
     
  11. Herdfan

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    It works in Germany and they actually have a lower death rate per 1M miles traveled than do our own interstates. I say we give it a try. :)
     
  12. Davenlr

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    Ill bet drivers training in Germany is a lot more enhanced than ours. All I know is after driving 300-500 miles a day on the interstates here, and watching some of the stupid moves drivers make... I dont think I would like to see them try it at 80 or 90 mph.

    In Germany, how many on ramps are there on the Autobon? Here there are way to many (and many to short to even get up to 70 by the end). Then there are those clusters of 20 cars tailgating each other because the front car is ONLY going 5 mph over the speed limit, and the cars behind want to go 10 over.

    Wont ever work in the US (except perhaps in the desert or northern plains). People are to self centered.
     
  13. Herdfan

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    Not as much FUD as you might think. There are currently school districts that have banned lunches brought from home. And don't think for a minute that there are not consumer groups that would love to close every McDonald's and fast food restaurant out there. And the idiots in this country just might elect them to office someday.

    Our freedoms are being eroded bit by bit. Some in the name of national safety, which I can live with. But the ones we are losing because some bureaucrat thinks we shouldn't eat this or that or not be allowed to to this or that are unacceptable.
     
  14. Herdfan

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    There are states starting to pass laws to address this very issue. Ohio of all places is considering a law that would allow ticketing of drivers who park in the left lane and impede traffic. If the police would issue a few tickets to those self centered people they might get the idea.
     
  15. RasputinAXP

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    We have a law for that on the books in Jersey and they don't enforce it.
     
  16. cj9788

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    I'm the enemy because I like to think. I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy that could sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs or the side order of gravy fries? I want high cholesterol. I would eat bacon and butter and buckets of cheese. Okay? I want to smoke Cuban cigars the size of Cincinnati in the nonsmoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I might suddenly feel the need to. Okay, pal?
     
  17. Nick

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    Wow, Stew! That ship sailed a long tome ago, but have you completely forgotten that there are alternatives to 'gubmint' schools: private schools, home schooling, or move to the the backwoods of Iowa or the UP of Michigan.
     
  18. sigma1914

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    One school did so...one. The other schools banned or restricted certain items.




    Why is health and nutrition in school such a bad thing now? Back in the 80s, we were constantly inundated with government programs like the Presidential Fitness Testing where kids were forced to do physical fitness tasks to earn a certificate. Another government program, Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign was drilled down in our minds like crazy. We were forced to pledge against drugs and say no.

    Where was the outrage then? Where were parents showing disgust for the government forcing little Jimmy to do situps and run? Where were parents showing disgust for the government forcing little Becky to pledge to never smoke a joint?
     
  19. Herdfan

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    It only takes one thing to start down the slippery slope. If one gets away with it, there will be more.

    Health and nutrition in schools aren't a bad thing. They are a good thing. Parents should feel comfortable sending their kids to school knowing they will have a healthy lunch. But when a parent decides to send a homemade lunch instead and the school says no, then that is a problem. The last time I checked, parents had the right to raise their kids as they saw fit and if mom wants little Sally to eat nothing but a cheese sandwich for lunch, then mom has that right.

    And I may be labeled a conspiracy theorist, but don't think for a minute that bans on homemade lunches are for the benefit of the kids. They are for the benefit of the school districts. The more kids they have eating lunch, the more money the district gets from the federal government. The entire school lunch program is a fraud. Instead of just providing reduced or free lunch to kids who need it, they subsidize every lunch. Why does the federal government need to tax me to subsidize a school lunch for my kid. Let me keep the money and pay the true cost of the lunch.
     
  20. Drucifer

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    Can you imagine your boss examining what you bring to the workplace? With a lot companies paying their workers health insurance, you could see 'em saying they should have an input.
     

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