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Forget DLB ... Who wants SLBPP while playing back a recording?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Drew2k, Oct 7, 2007.

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  1. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    Excellent point. This could go a long way to meeting multiple long-term user requests ...
     
  2. M3Rocket

    M3Rocket Mentor

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    This is a great idea--a separate tracking thread for SLB pause point. This is the last bit of really annoying HR20 shortcomings (DLB notwitstanding). I would accept this as a good solution even if DLB will never be implemented.
     
  3. ronrico51

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    When I made the switch from Dtivo to HR20, I thought I was doing something wrong. When I paused live buffer, came back to it later, it was no longer paused. I was totally confounded to learn that this is "how it is". I kept trying to figure out how to switch between the live buffers. Then I learned there is only one, and this is "how it is". All the decent qualities of the HR20 are more than offset by these major shortcomings. When my commitment is up I will give the competition a serious look. I probably would remain satisfied with D* if these were fixed. As others have said, the Single Live Buffer Pause Point (no acronyms allowed) is one of the most basic functions of a DVR. I think perhaps D* simply can't implement it with their current software capabilities. What other reason could there be?
     
  4. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    I've been thinking about what it WOULD take to save the pause point, so here I am being an armchair programmer:

    1) IS_PAUSED: A variable to store whether the buffer is paused

    2) IS_WATCHING_RECORDING: A variable to store whether the user is watching live TV or playback from the playlist

    3) PAUSE_TIMER: A time that holds the length of time that the buffer is paused

    4) PAUSE_POSITION: A variable that stores the time/location where the user paused the buffer

    Now you need some logic or what happens while a user is watching playback from the play list and what happens when they exit back to live TV:

    Code:
    [B]WHILE[/B] IS_WATCHING_RECORDING
    [B]DO[/B]
       [B]IF[/B] IS_PAUSED [B]THEN[/B] INCREMENT(PAUSE_TIMER)  [B]END IF[/B]
    [B]DONE[/B]
    
    DISPLAY_LIVE_BUFFER
    
    [B]IF[/B] (PAUSE_TIMER < 90)
    [B]THEN
    [/B]   LOCATE_PAUSE_POSITION_TO(PAUSE_POSITION)
    [B]ELSE[/B]
       LOCATE_PAUSE_POSITION_TO(LIVE)
    [B]END IF[/B]
    
    Well it seems pretty simple here, but I'm sure there is much more to it than this.
     
  5. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    Ditto, it is my greatest displeasure to date. How aggravating to return to find nothing saved.:nono:
     
  6. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I agree with you. I think if we has a working SLB that holding a pause point would make the HR20 nearly complete(I won't go there...). Beside that which won't mention, the pause point is my last pet peeve.

    I'm really supprised it doesn't do it now. The ability to manipulate the buffer is what makes the difference between a reciever and a DVR.

    However, I have a BIG problem with the SLB not working 100% of the time. What good is the pause point if the buffer clears.

    Now for the shameless plug for my own thread about the buffer clearing when it should. If you have ever had the buffer dissapear after watching something from your playlist go here to talk about it.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=102019

    SLB must be error free. It must hold the pause point for 90 minutes if I what it to.

    Mike
     
  7. Coffey77

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    I would be okay with setting up the DLB the "trick" way we can do it now... by setting up a recording on one channel, Ch. A and then moving to the other channel, Ch. B. manually. The problem is what you're talking about... You would assume PAUSING Ch. A (Recording) would hold where it's at when you return to it from Ch. B and act as a "recording" instead of having to go into the PLAYLIST and start from there. It's almost like they need to take the whole set of "directions" for PLAYING a program and just put it right after a user hits PAUSE. I'm starting to confuse myself now so sorry! :)

    If we manually push record on a channel we would be creating the buffer on our own. DIRECTV/HR20 would not be responsible - which, you would hope, would not interfere with any patents or legal problems, if that were the case.
     
  8. Drew2k

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    Just a reminder: If you want to see SLB with a saved Pause Point, vote in the HR20 Wish List Survey!

    Click here for HR20 Wish List Survey, and vote your wishes!

    Remember if the LIVE BUFFER is PAUSED, when using PREV to toggle between LIVE TV and recording PLAYBACK.
     
  9. jheda

    jheda DBSTalk Club Member

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    Well in light of the clear announcement that dlb is NOT in our near feature, as i said before this is a MUST
     
  10. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    Where's the love people? We need SLB with a saved pause point!!!
     
  11. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    If they can't figure out how to pause the live buffer, they will never be able to do DLB.

    Think about it. This is step one.

    - Craig
     
  12. Drew2k

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    Come on folks! Add your voices! Let's get DIRECTV to save the pause point in the live buffer when you play something from your playlist!

    Think about one huge benefit:

    You would be able to pause a ballgame, the news, whatever it is you're watching on live TV, go to your playlist and watch something else, and then hit PREV to return to LIVE TV right where you paused it ...
     
  13. Michael D'Angelo

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    I agree Drew. I hope this is one of the next things if not the next big thing to be added.

    This would be a big plus to the HR20 for me.

    A lot of times I am watching ESPNEWS and I am waiting to see something that will be coming up in a little while so I will watch something that is already recorded while waiting. But when I finish watching the recording I have to rewind to get back to what I wanted to see. If I could just pause it that would be nice.
     
  14. Drew2k

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    Absolutely ... This would also be a huge benefit to new DVR+ users, because it just seems natural that when you pause something ... it should stay paused! :p
     
  15. Rugged

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    I really would love this to work...I'm just surprised more people haven't weighed in with their support.
     
  16. ccr1958

    ccr1958 Hall Of Fame

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    agree with Drew 100%...can't imagine what
    the engineers are/were thinking..
     
  17. azmikew

    azmikew New Member

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    Being new to the HR20 I'm surprised that you can't pause and return without losing your position. I'd love this feature.
     
  18. Steve

    Steve Well-Known Member

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    If you'd love it and haven't yet voted for it on the Wish List, you can do so here. :)

    "Remember if the LIVE BUFFER is PAUSED, when using PREV to toggle between LIVE TV and recording PLAYBACK."

    /steve
     
  19. ccr1958

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    thanks....done
     
  20. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    I will go for SLBPPt but I do consider this the poor man's DLB.
    SLBPP would be better than what we have right now.
     
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