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Fox News vs CNN Picture Quality

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by mitchflorida, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. Rich

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    What do you think would happen if the 4K sets suddenly came down to the price of a high end LCD LED, or better yet, a high end plasma? You have to admit $22,000 for a TV is a bit ridiculous.

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  2. raj2001

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    I never heard that. May be true or not, who knows. I doubt that would be the case now though, given that the FCC wants spectrum taken away from TV broadcasters.

    As for Fox News. I started working at Fox News before it went HD. Fox Business launched with an HD channel in 2007. New facilities were built for that channel. Fox News also had to have new facilities built. We finally decommissioned the last old SD control room like 2-3 years ago (may be longer than that.) It was a really old small room with CRT monitors and the like. The new one is really nice with large LCD monitors and it is huge. State of the art everything. Around the same time we started transitioning everything over to a tapeless newsroom. The bureaus had to be outfitted with new HD gear as well as Manhattan and Secaucus NJ. That took time and planning.

    Part of the reason Fox News looks different on HD is because the graphics were changed up when Fox News went to a widescreen format only. The ticker was made larger and graphics were adjusted to be readable on SD TVs. It isn't purely resolution. It's the whole package. I don't think CNN changed up theirs but I don't watch them all that much.

    Shepard Smith was the first one to go full HD and everyone else followed later. We had an "HD wing" thing where we'd display the SD picture and a sidebar to fill the screen space with news headlines. That lasted a few months until everything was converted to HD. I believe Business still has theirs.
     
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    THANK you ma'am. This needs to be posted as a sticky at the top of EVERY forum where picture quality is discussed.:goodjob:
     
  4. Diana C

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    If I had all the answers I'd be running Panasonic. :)

    Personally, even if we could buy a 84" TV for the price of a 60" plasma today, I can't think of a place where having such a huge display would be acceptable. I sure wouldn't want it in my living room. It's one thing to see these displays on a convention floor, but in your house they will literally dominate a room. Think of it this way...an 84" TV is like stacking FOUR 42" displays, two high and two wide. That's not big, that's monsterous!

    In my opinion there is also a lot of catching up yet to be done in the marketplace. At this point, there is about a 75% penetration of HD sets in the marketplace, but less than 50% penetration of HD content (IOW, a third of all the people with HDTVs are watching SD on them, exclusively). Many "cablecasters" are still in the process of converting to HD transmission equipment, and those that have made the transition are still paying off the investment. I think everyone will want to get a minimum of another 5 years of use out of the current equipment before making investments in the infrastructure to handle 4 to 8 times the data rates. So I really don't see 4K or 8K being widely adopted for a long time.

    I honestly think you'll see the "beyond HD" resolutions following the 3D pattern. Some people will buy in, but the format will be primarily a Blu-Ray format for quite a while.

    In the final analysis, 4K is being pushed by the CE manufacturers for the same reason as 3D: the profit margins on 1080p displays have been trimmed to the bone and this is a way to keep the price points up.
     
  5. mitchflorida

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    I doubt if Rupert Murdoch could program his own VCR let alone be a technical guru on whether to use 1080i or 720p or stay with SD. It's all chicken feed for a huge conglomerate like News Corp and they will upgrade to the next "newest thing" if and when the competition does.
     
  6. George_T

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    Fox in 720p... it's a right-wing conspiracy somehow! ;)
     
  7. Rich

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    Thanx, that cleared the topic up very well.

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  8. danegerous25

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    Ill chime in since i work for FSN. We use 720p because people above my pay grade decided it worked and looked better for sports and such. Also after talking to people that work in our transmissions dept, we have equipment only meant to work with 720p. Any time we get a signal source that uses 1080 i/p we down-convert it work with our equipment. I assume might as well have everybody on the same page regardless of what they are doing.
     
  9. Bill Broderick

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    Yeah. But it's awesome for watching the Sunday Ticket Game Mix channel (especially on weeks where there are only 4 late games on).
     
  10. Diana C

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    Spoken like a guy. :)
     
  11. tonyd79

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    That is awfully sexist, Ms. Diana, especially for a self-proclaimed sports fan.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  12. Rich

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    I can't tell you what my wife just said about an 84" TV. Wasn't pretty.

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  13. dcowboy7

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    A tv is never too big....its your room thats too small.
     
  14. Diana C

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    Me??? A sports fan? I'm only a Yankees fan...I don't watch football or basketball if I can help it.

    :D

    It may be sexist, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. :)

    (just look at the post above). ;)
     
  15. Paul Secic

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    I think I know what she said.:rolleyes:
     
  16. Rich

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    Yeah, there were a couple F-bombs (not normal for her) and much questioning of my sanity.... :lol:

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    Hopefully, you only want a 60", and used the scare of an 84" as a ploy! "))
     
  18. dpeters11

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    Always best to pick your battles. Of course some wives would question the sanity of 12 DVRs.
     
  19. Rich

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    I've got a 60" and a 58". Didn't want an 84" set, just was curious after reading Diana C's post as to what my wife would say about it.

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    She loves MRV, doesn't care about the number of DVRs, understands my ongoing lack of faith in the HRs (altho that's changing) and tells anyone that will listen to her how wonderful it is to be able to watch shows from any TV in the house.

    But, I gotta admit, she does question my sanity at times. When I fully explained why I asked her about the 84" set, she quickly calmed down.

    Until something changes my mind, I'll stick with CC's opinion of larger than 60" sets.

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