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Fox Sports 1

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by domingos35, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Jul 18, 2013 #1 of 118
    domingos35

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    Is dish going to carry it?
     
  2. Jul 18, 2013 #2 of 118
    inkahauts

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    DIsh and Directv and many others are still negotiating for it. Who knows at this point. After the PAC12 channel last year, its a coin toss IMHO on who will carry it.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2013 #3 of 118
    PokerJoker

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    Apparently Dish, Directv, and TW Cable all think that they should pay the same for FS1 as they have been paying for Speed Channel, which FS1 is replacing.

    Fox, of course, has a different opinion.

    Negotiations continue. It's not unusual for these things to drag on right up to the last minute - or sometimes beyond.
     
  4. Jul 19, 2013 #4 of 118
    Ray C@DISH Network

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    We are still negotiating for this channel. If you are interested in receiving FOX Sports 1, please PM me your account number so I can notate your account showing your interest in the channel. Please let me know. Thanks.

     
  5. Jul 21, 2013 #5 of 118
    Steeloc15

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    Since this is a rebranding of the speed channel does Dish have the right to carry the channel until the current speed contract runs out or is it possible for the channel to be pulled on Aug 17th?
     
  6. Jul 21, 2013 #6 of 118
    James Long

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    It depends on the contract. There have been some instances of a channel changing and the "old format" sticking around on a provider since that provider's contract to carry that format channel was still in effect. I'm not sure how Speed could go to a new format and maintain the old ... NASCAR is on Speed so I'd expect that to continue on the special "holdover channel" but would Speed brand the holdover channel as Fox Sports 1 or keep the speed logo on the screen?

    Hopefully we won't find out - hopefully DISH and Fox will come to reasonable terms and a month from now we'll just have Fox Sports 1. But there seems to be enough unsigned contracts that Fox should be working on a "old format" backup - so they can comply with the contracts they have until they can get the major players to sign on to the new.

    Or perhaps they have already invoked a cancellation clause in their old contracts and Speed will die on August 17th. It all depends on the contracts.
     
  7. Jul 22, 2013 #7 of 118
    sregener

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    The live programming Fox plans to show on FS1 is, in large part, being stolen from the Fox broadcast network. In other words, the total value of the programming with regards to live sports will not change. So will Fox gladly reduce their carriage fees for the broadcast networks? Fat chance. Are they reducing affiliation fees to compensate their "partners"? No, this is just another attempt to wring more money out of their viewers. And it will likely work, just as most other attempts have.
     
  8. Jul 22, 2013 #8 of 118
    inazsully

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    It all boils down to content. Nobody should expect to pay more for the same product. For a better product with more good stuff, sure. Key word here is GOOD. If they want acceptence they need to hit the ground running.
     
  9. Jul 22, 2013 #9 of 118
    Paul Secic

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    They should bundle sports like premium channels.
     
  10. Jul 22, 2013 #10 of 118
    inkahauts

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    I love sports and even I totally agree Paul. It's time to change their package. I don't think anyone would be yelling about a la cart if sports and its costs where all in its own package. Not tier but pa Kane available separate from and independently from everything else.

    I'd bet dish and directv would pick up all the missing sports channels too.
     
  11. Jul 24, 2013 #11 of 118
    JYW10

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    Do you guys know if Fox Sports 1 will be available for customers with the AT 120+ and Multi Sports Pack, or if it'll just replace Speed in the AT 200? I would hate to have to lose the Fox Soccer Channel and have to pay more to watch some Champions League on Fox Sports 1. I hope it'll be available in the cheaper packages considering NBC wants to compete with ESPN, which is in the cheapest package and available to all Dish users. Thanks!
     
  12. Jul 24, 2013 #12 of 118
    inkahauts

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    No one knows anything yet since they FOX doesn't have contracts with hardly anyone to carry it yet, including Directv and DIsh. Till they announce an agreement, no knows knows what tier ti would be in. Teir placement is likely one of the things being negotiated
     
  13. Jul 24, 2013 #13 of 118
    Ray C@DISH Network

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    We do not have any information about FOX Sports 1 yet. If anyone is interested in the channel, please PM me your account number and I can provide information on your interest to our programming department. Thanks.

     
  14. Jul 25, 2013 #14 of 118
    Michael P

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    That's a good thing to know. I hate it when a NASCAR race makes the 10 PM news run late. OTOH I'd also hate it if The NFL that is currently on FOX were to go to cable.
     
  15. Jul 25, 2013 #15 of 118
    inkahauts

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    I would not worry about the nfl moving until contracts are up again.
     
  16. Jul 26, 2013 #16 of 118
    James Long

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    As long as I get the channel I really don't care where the sport ends up. The challenge is making sure I can still get the channel. My local broadcast stations are independent of the networks ... so DISH has to negotiate with the station owner groups for carriage. Speed/FS1 is controlled by the network. Should I worry more about my local station groups telling DISH they cannot carry local channels or about Fox telling DISH they cannot carry network channels?

    There comes a point where one notices the digit at the beginning of their DISH or other cable/satellite bill. Where did it come from and why is it getting bigger? I remember when there were only two digits before the decimal point. That first one kept getting bigger and bigger until it was replaced by a third digit.

    The conflict over getting all the content I want vs paying for it is getting bigger. I can understand why more and more viewers are investigating and investing in ways of getting content without paying ... including methods that are not authorized by the content owners or distributors. (Although "it costs too much" is never an excuse for stealing content.)

    I hope that a good deal can be made with FS1 for carriage and I can still see the sport I wish to see. I just wish my wages were going up as fast as my cable/satellite bill. :(
     
  17. Jul 27, 2013 #17 of 118
    sregener

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    I would not worry about the NFL moving. The reality is that the NFL recognizes that their popularity in large part comes from their availability on non-pay channels. They are the only sport I know of that insists that pay channels sell rights to local broadcast affiliates in the home town of teams playing, so that every fan in the home market can watch the game without having to have the pay channel. They would give preference to a contract with ABC, CBS or NBC over one with Fox Sports One. It would be quite a coup for CW to get NFL carriage. Remember the howls when Fox first got the NFC? Fox was a niche network with a smaller set of affiliates. Now, nobody blinks twice when Fox gets the rights to a major sporting event. The day Fox tries to move their NFL programming to pay TV is the day it will be time for a new upstart in town.

    Exhibit B is the new deal that NASCAR signed with NBC. Included in that deal was the insistence that NBC carry many more races on broadcast television than ESPN and TNT did. NASCAR has lost popularity as ABC shifted more races over to ESPN.

    Sports that have moved from the broadcast channels to the pay channels have done so at the cost of the popularity of their sport. They may be making more money, but they have fewer fans. The NFL has enough money they have no reason to distance themselves from their fans. NASCAR had enough fans, lost some of them, and now is making moves to woo them back. The NFL will not repeat NASCAR's error.
     
  18. Jul 27, 2013 #18 of 118
    inkahauts

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    I would not worry about the NFL moving. The reality is that the NFL recognizes that their popularity in large part comes from their availability on non-pay channels. They are the only sport I know of that insists that pay channels sell rights to local broadcast affiliates in the home town of teams playing, so that every fan in the home market can watch the game without having to have the pay channel. They would give preference to a contract with ABC, CBS or NBC over one with Fox Sports One. It would be quite a coup for CW to get NFL carriage. Remember the howls when Fox first got the NFC? Fox was a niche network with a smaller set of affiliates. Now, nobody blinks twice when Fox gets the rights to a major sporting event. The day Fox tries to move their NFL programming to pay TV is the day it will be time for a new upstart in town.

    Exhibit B is the new deal that NASCAR signed with NBC. Included in that deal was the insistence that NBC carry many more races on broadcast television than ESPN and TNT did. NASCAR has lost popularity as ABC shifted more races over to ESPN.

    Sports that have moved from the broadcast channels to the pay channels have done so at the cost of the popularity of their sport. They may be making more money, but they have fewer fans. The NFL has enough money they have no reason to distance themselves from their fans. NASCAR had enough fans, lost some of them, and now is making moves to woo them back. The NFL will not repeat NASCAR's error.


    Totally agree. Very well said.
     
  19. Jul 30, 2013 #19 of 118
    JYW10

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    Any news on whether Dish is going to carry it and what package it'll be in? Thanks!
     
  20. Jul 30, 2013 #20 of 118
    Stewart Vernon

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    We aren't likely to know anything until the change happens.

    Right now Dish carries the channel... under its current name and format... does the format/name change supercede the current agreement? IF not, then Dish carries it by default until that contract ends.
     

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