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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by DavidMi, Jun 3, 2010.
That doesn't make sense. Choice Xtra is $69 and HD is $10. AT250 is $70 and HD is $0.
I'm guessing he was talking overall bill.
So whether or not it can be afforded everyone should get rid of their SD TV sets and SD STBs and pay to go HD?
One other thing to keep in mind, My TV watching is not more enjoyable with HD than it was watching SD on a SDTV.
HD subscribers usually pay more for thier equipment up front than SD subscribers....
For what service, Comcast or Directv? For Comcast I pay $1.10 per month for 3 CableCARDS but they credit me $2.50 per month per the FCC user owned equipment(2 TiVos) mandate, net gain is $1.40 in my pocket. For Directv I pay $8 per month for the HD-DVR but then they credit me $8 per month for a net cost of $0.0. Both of the TiVos have lifetime service on them that has more than paid for itself already versus going with provider supplied equipment with monthly rental fees.
Im in the same catagory as keenan. Two HD Tivos, $5 monthly credit from Comcast, and both have lifetime. First cablecard is free, second is $1.50, and DTA on SD Tivo in third room is free, No HD charge, No DVR fee. I net $3.50. DirecTv HR34 was $399 up front lease fee + monthy DVR fee, second DVR is $7, third receiver is another $7.
Ok so what was the upfront cost of the TiVo and Lifetime service, or TiVo monthly fee.
I went to TiVo's website and checked so it's $399 per TiVo Premier XL4 and $499 for lifetime service.
So for $499, more using retail price, upfront you can avoid the HD rental fees. So after about 45 months you'll save in the long run. Assuming you never get a discount or promotion on your service. Add a second one it takes around 90 months to start saving. I'm not sure how this is even close to a good deal.
Updated math as I used a TiVo XL which is closer to a HR34 than a HR2X
Paid $299 for lifetime on the Tivo Premier upgrade offer (it was $69 for the box), and bought the Tivo HD with lifetime on here for $250. I paid $399 for the HR34 lease, and $299 for the HR24 (owned). Ive had the original SD Tivo since 2001, so its more than paid for itself.
I havent bought a Tivo XL4 yet. Waiting for the bugs to get worked out, and another upgrade offer from Tivo on the lifetime service. Im in no hurry. Might go with the Ceton 4 tuner PCIe card for my HTPC instead though, since I use the HTPC and extenders in each room for most of my day to day watching (its currently hooked up the the Tivo HD with a HDPVR encoder).
It isn't? I sure enjoy TV more with HD in fact I hate to watch any channels that are still only in SD. Yes I will admit I'm an HD snob
Then you're doing something wrong. HD is the biggest leap in home video technology I've ever experienced. Sports, movies, documentaries, travel, and nature shows all benefit from being shot and broadcast in HD. And given the drop in flat panel prices, it's hard not to justify at least upgrading your primary set to HD.
I kinda agree with TBoneit. Yes, HD is a much better picture but if I'm enjoying a movie, that enjoyment isn't going to be reduced because it's in SD.
HD or SD, if I like something the format doesn't interfere with my enjoyment.
Do I prefer HD? Yes. Is it necessary for the entertainment of the movie/show? No.
Wonder where D gets the $10 figure from for HD? That would seem to be a boatload of $'s per month. I would assume that Dish makes up the $10 some way (fewer HD channels and/or more equip. rental, etc.). Don't know for sure, just wondering...
To expand on TBoneit's statement, those people that have SD don't necessarily miss HD if they never had it. Plus, SD doesn't really look that bad on something like a 27" TV.
You are missing my point or I'm not getting it across. A show or movie that is enjoyable in HD will still be enjoyable in SD. A show that is not interesting won't suddenly become interesting in HD.
If it is only the visual aspect of it, why are we watching it in the home and not only in the theatre on the big screen?
I enjoy the show just as much whether I record it in SD (720 by 480) on my DVD recorder from the HD channel or directly in HD on my HD DVR. I have the settings in my DVD recorder set for 30 second fwd skip and 5 second reverse skip. That would be whether I'm playing from the Hard Disk or a DVD disk.On my Locals they both fill the screen at 16:9 AR.
I watch for the Content.
I enjoyed TV on the 10" B&W RCA, I Enjoyed it more when the jump to color happened. That was the last big jump in TV technology. That 10" B&W wasn't even 10" it was a round picture tube that had the top and bottom masked off. The corners were rounded. It was still great.
Looks like Mike got it!
I watch for the content, if I have a choice of SD or HD then I'll choose the HD, If not I'll watch the SD.
Exactly, Parents TV set is a 27" Sony hooked up to a HD DVR. I figured when the Old DVR had to be replaced, get the set location ready for HD.
3 years later still watching the Sony. I'll be able to replace it only when it dies.
The only way I was able get a LCD monitor for their computer was because the old Tube monitor died. It'll be the same for the TV. I keep offering to put a 40" or bigger there. What I hear is that this is fine, Save your money. So I keep money set aside for when it does die.
@mike and loudo...yeah that sounded different in my head before it came out hahaha...did NOT mean it to sound like it does, my apologies
With the arguing going on from the other side, it's obvious DirecTV is depending on getting that $10 per sub revenue back. But, hey...If you were under a contract for 2 years, the good news is that it is over and you can just cancel without fee should DirecTV choose not provide another discount.
Me? Well yes, the added $10 will in fact make/break me, so either a receiver gets chopped off and maybe a package downgrade. I have a monetary threshold for TV services.
The DirecTV website still defines Advanced Receiver Service-HD as:
And if you're an old customer, you can pay us. Oh well, I can be a "new" customer somewhere else.
As long as it is kept in it original format. When they stretch it, then it becomes unwatchable.
There are different points of view. I don't watch movies on network tv, HD or SD, because of commercials, not to mention that they usually butcher movies in order to please the censors.
I prefer uncut movies without commercials in HD, blueray or upscaled DVD's in widescreen, but once in a while I will watch one in 4 x 3. I enjoy not only the content, but the visual and audio parts of a movie. That's why I have an HD tv, a blueray player, and a surround audio system. I also prefer to watch tv shows in HD, but will watch in SD if there is nothing else showing.
Just looked at my June bill and the $10 HD credit was there and I was one of the early ones to get this. Is this credit now permanent?