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Funny D* HD Ad

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by emathis, Oct 19, 2007.

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  1. Oct 19, 2007 #21 of 144
    James Long

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    I don't know may be the most accurate answer a CSR can give. :D
     
  2. Oct 19, 2007 #22 of 144
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    well yeah I know...thats my point...E* isn't giving any useful info out at all...not even preparing their CSR's about upcoming releases...i read on engadget that we were getting new channels in Sept. I called E* to make sure it was true...CSR had no idea....he looked up on the web and said...oh...I see it now...yes they should be released on those dates....lol
     
  3. Oct 20, 2007 #23 of 144
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    I totally get the point of the ad. VOOM failed as a stand alone because there was nothing there. If a company wanted to have a high channel count at a low price, then a content free no-charge deal like VOOM would be ideal. If a company wanted to serve the customer, then HD versions of channels people know and which has the programming they are familiar with would be.

    Pretty much the difference between the two services. From day one.
     
  4. Oct 20, 2007 #24 of 144
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    Yeah...i can too...more people are going to respond more to national channels with acclaimed shows then to treasure HD, monster HD, or equator HD...although Godzilla in HD is pretty damn cool...
     
  5. Oct 20, 2007 #25 of 144
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    I foresee a whole new CATV campaign on "rain fade" as a result of the new D* Ka satellites and hope that E* doesn't get caught up in the excrement.
     
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    VOOM didn't fail due to lack of content. It had all the Movie channels that we are wanting now. Everything that was available in HD was on VOOM. The reason it failed was there were too few that had HD. Rainbow Media (Cablevision) the owner of VOOM wasn't willing to continue to loose money to build up a clientèle over several years. This is when they sold out the assets to E* and reorganized to a Media provider only. I was a very happy HD customer with them thill they pulled the plug. In addition to the HD channels they also had about 150 SD channels as well. The owner of Cablevision was willing to wait it out but his board of directors and investors was not. They out voted him and that was the end of VOOM as a sat company competing w/ D* & E*. One last thing is the coverage of 61.5 was not really that great for a national provider. It was very hard for the West Coast to pickup the bird.
     
  7. Oct 20, 2007 #27 of 144
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    whats after the NHL? ect ect arent channels....:p
     
  8. Oct 20, 2007 #28 of 144
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    what was the lie?
     
  9. Oct 20, 2007 #29 of 144
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    has anyone noticed if E* is still broadcasting commercials claiming to be the leader in HD? i haven't seen any lately and wondered if they pulled them.
     
  10. Oct 20, 2007 #30 of 144
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    In part, that the channels listed are the ones *I* live for ...
    D* can't tell me what to live for. They also started this whole campaign of counting unavailable channels and are claiming "over 70" channels delivered.
     
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    I took that as the channels that are in high demand for HD...sci fi...FX...usa...ect. So maybe the "you" is referring to the majority of HD customers?
     
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    That still doesn't account for the constant inflation. :)
     
  13. Oct 20, 2007 #33 of 144
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    In some sense the statement may be accurate; especially if contemplated on hours of HD source delivered. Several of D*'s recent claims have been struck down in a court of law.

    My favorite had to be the ads built around a survey of professional home theater installers.
     
  14. Oct 20, 2007 #34 of 144
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    they are suing cox for false advertising for claiming to be the leader in HD clarity...lol:


    one thing they DO get right though...and they emphasize it...is more national channels.... i think if you take out the sport tiers....the biggest thing HD folks will look for is who has the most watched/national channels with popular shows on .
     
  15. Oct 20, 2007 #35 of 144
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    Ill agree with the channel count. thats bull on both sides. We have talked about. I guess depending on how broad your definition of a channel is that could or could not be considered false. But james i doubt very seriously that they were talking about about u personally when the said that about channels i live for....lol. Its a catchy saying meant to imply most want those channels over voom. Thats generally correct.
     
  16. Oct 25, 2007 #36 of 144
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    True, but you fail to take into account how much of Voom a person actually watches VS how much of those "other channels" they would watch. Also SD on an HD feed looks a lot better than standard dish or directv sd.
     
  17. Oct 25, 2007 #37 of 144
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    Simple answer because their main concern is $$$$! They'll do whatever will put more money in their pockets. Such as downrezzing channels and allowing them to look horrible. That goes for both sides in case anyone tries to make this a HD-Lite E* vs D* debate. Both are equally bad IMHO.

    The add may be poorly worded and over the top but so is E*. I called dish the other day to get the date of my billing cycle because I am possibly considering canceling my service and was asked why. I responded and the rep preceded to tell me that if I chose to waste my time canceling I will still return in 6 months so they never would lose my business. Needless to say my response was along the lines of: "last time I checked you weren't anybody so don't forget you have to right to tell me what my actions will or won't be" This type of behavior is one of the reasons aside from poor HD on D*, why I left them.

    So if blame is to be placed both companies are very shady in their dealings. In this day and age an honest provider is non-existent.
     
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    I got the same kind of response when i was considering leaving E*...except she tried to tell me that D* really did have the new channels in HD because they dont exist in HD...even though..i had just watched them t my friends...in HD
     
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    BTW...when i was looking at the E* packages just now...they STILL have "THE LEADER IN HD" on their website....better be careful..D* is sue happy over that lately...lol
     
  20. Oct 25, 2007 #40 of 144
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    I can one up that one. The next rep said D* may have those channels and say HD but the content isn't always in HD where as those same channels on Dish are always HD. I attempted to explain she was wrong and they said my dish must be setup wrong and want to send a tech over.

    Honestly responses like this make me want to switch and continue the cycle of jumping back and forth to who has the better PQ and lineup.

    Quick question since you saw them at your friends house and this obviously is objective, but was the PQ on D* Mpeg-4 better than E*? I find most of the HD on E* now is too soft. Especially StarzHD
     
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