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Genie and HDMI Splitter

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Rickt1962, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Jun 2, 2013 #1 of 22
    Rickt1962

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    Buddy of mine called me his New Genie doesnt work with his HDMI Splitter His Old DVR was a HR21 so he just upgraded. The Directv guy swapped them out and now it NO longer works ! I went over to see if they had it plugged in correctly and everything was fine even switch out the splitter with another working splitter ! NOPE Anyone else here splitting the HDMI on the Genie HR34 ?
     
  2. Jun 2, 2013 #2 of 22
    peds48

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    I am not "splitting" but rather using a matrix switch from SS. works flawlessly


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  3. Jun 2, 2013 #3 of 22
    P Smith

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    Would nice to know what maker and model of the splitter(s).
     
  4. Jun 2, 2013 #4 of 22
    Rickt1962

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  5. Jun 2, 2013 #5 of 22
    P Smith

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    I would say it's good to use based on words "HDCP 1.2 protocol compliant"... I would check its power supply first.
     
  6. Jun 2, 2013 #6 of 22
    Rickt1962

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    I did.. I took mine over thinking the same thing ! Now im wondering if Dave is playing GAMES again ! Just like my HR21 when I used my Video output the yellow RCA jack to my Video Modulator and it says Video format not compatibale and had to buy a Component Video convertor
     
  7. Jun 2, 2013 #7 of 22
    P Smith

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    if I coud I would look into 'messages.log' on your drive to see what the heck is it !
     
  8. Jun 3, 2013 #8 of 22
    slice1900

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    Probably a bug of some sort, but... Does anyone know if Directv issues SRMs to revoke HDCP keys, or maybe does it as part of their firmware updates? Do you both have the same setup? I wonder if you left yours at his place for a few days, or maybe rebooted the receiver with it attached, if yours would start having the same problems? If so, it would likely be key revocation.

    I still think it's probably not that, but if you've ruled out everything else and believe it might be a revoked HDCP key, try this:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Amplifier-Splitter-1X2-V1-4-Certified-Full-3D-4Kx2K-HD-Audio-Support-/261191636947?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd03c17d3

    This is one of the favorite products for those who seek what is known as an "HDCP stripper". It takes in HDCP encrypted HDMI, but outputs unencrypted HDMI. It is supposed to be safe from key revocation, though I'm not sure of the mechanism. I'm sure it relies on the HDCP master key crack from a few years ago, so either every one ships out with a different key, or it is capable of generating itself a new key if the one it is using gets rejected.
     
  9. Jun 3, 2013 #9 of 22
    Rickt1962

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  10. slice1900

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    Its possible a recent update on the HR34 did a key revocation. If so the same may be done on a future HR2x firmware as well. I guess if you have the same problem next time yours get an update then you'll know why.
     
  11. emilymartin986

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    You always want to use a powered HDMI Splitter that is EDID and HDCP compliant. I have used several of KVMSwitchTech's HDMI Splitter products and they work great.
     
  12. slice1900

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    The issue is, that's what he did. But something has changed to make it not work any longer at his friend's house.
     
  13. Phil17108

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    This worries me a little. I received a free upgrade from DTV and set it up for next week to work through an issues before the install. I am using a Monoprice splitter that is just 3 or 4 months old. Its what thy call Pro, the best thing about it you don't know its there. I have a new AVR before splitter in the chain with HDMI 1.4/3D speck. I was thinking that the splitter was 1.4 also having replaced a matrix that was not 3D and 1.3. Just checked Monoprice, and the spec for HDMI is not there, I know it sure was at one time.
     
  14. Phil17108

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    We got the free upgrade yesterday, I kinda expected an hr34, and got the 44, neat. It's supper fast and just replaced a 23 in the living room. No problems with anything. The splitter works. I think that the rest of the whole home system is faster and in one case a lot.
     
  15. Kev4Bama

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    I got an HR-44 today and I have a monoprice pro powered HDMI splitter and everything appears to be working fine for me.
     
  16. P Smith

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    it would be good if you will provide its model
     
  17. Kev4Bama

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    MonoPrice HDMI-120E3 Item #4921 I believe it has been replaced with a newer model now
     
  18. CorporalCuddler

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    I realize that this is an old topic, but I'm hoping I can get some updates from people that dealt with this issue.

    I've found out that Directv's Genie and Genie Mini are in an "always on" state, and so HDMI switchers will never automatically switch over to these boxes. Apparently there are some apple products that are the same way ... I'm told. Anyway, so MANUALLY, the switch will work, but for someone like me who has all of their electronics in a closet, this is a serious issue. I don't want to have to go to the closet everytime I want to switch back to regular tv.

    The only solution I can think of is to get an IR transmitter, where the sensor is next to the tv, and the receiver is back with the HDMI switch, so that I can use the HDMI switch remote to switch inputs without having to walk to the closet. I haven't done this yet, but as far as I can figure, it's the only solution to this issue.

    Has anyone else come up with a better solution?
     
  19. inkahauts

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    Without knowing your whole setup and why your using a switch in the first place it's hard to make any other suggestions.
     
  20. peds48

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    While the Genie is never really off, when is on standby, all of its outputs are off. So an automatic switch should detect when the Genie is "off" a Genie mini is actually off rather then standby
     

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