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Genie and mini genie questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Cavicchi, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Jul 20, 2013 #21 of 152
    trh

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    How high up on the roof? If it requires the installer to get off a ladder, then they probably won't install it.

    You also don't want it where it can't be reached during the winter w/o a dish heater as dpeters11 mentioned.
     
  2. Jul 21, 2013 #22 of 152
    Cavicchi

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    Yes, it does require an installer to get off a ladder. The SWIM dish was installed years ago, but I assume any new dish would either be in same location or near where present exists. I don't know about a dish heater. How much would it cost to have it installed, including purchase?

    I expect them to replace present dish if necessary in same location. I mean, they wouldn't put another dish in a different location requiring me to have 2 dishes?
     
  3. Jul 21, 2013 #23 of 152
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    OSHA requires that if the installers have to get off a ladder and the roof is higher than 6' off the ground, they have to use fall protection. Fall protection isn't something most installers are willing to do nor are they willing to risk a first-time fine of $7,000 ($70,000 if OSHA has fined the company previously for the same violation). Fall protection for dish installers didn't get a lot of visibility until recently. So yes, they may end up installing a second dish. Or they may choose to ignore federal regulations; but that isn't DirecTV's policy.

    But since you live in a snow area, you should install the dish where you can reach it from a ladder to clean or service it. Your installer may go on the roof today without fall protection, but he probably won't come January when your dish needs to be realigned due to a bad storm, but you have snow on your roof.
     
  4. Jul 21, 2013 #24 of 152
    Cavicchi

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  5. Jul 21, 2013 #25 of 152
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    note that fall protection enforcement varies greatly by market. So while there is a policy is not "written" in stone
     
  6. Jul 21, 2013 #26 of 152
    trh

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    Fall protection law doesn't vary by market though.
     
  7. Jul 21, 2013 #27 of 152
    peds48

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    and who is implying this?????

    what good is a law if it does not get enforced? !rolling
     
  8. Jul 21, 2013 #28 of 152
    Cavicchi

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    Since my SWM dish had one coax going to the DVR, I don't need a new dish.
     
  9. Jul 21, 2013 #29 of 152
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    Seriously?

    The law was put in place to save lifes. Just because there may not be an OSHA inspector within 100 miles doesn't mean it isn't a good law and that the law should be ignored.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2013 #30 of 152
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    Not necessarily.

    What equipment do you have now and what will you have/keep if you get a genie installed?

    If you go over nine turners, your LNB might need to be changed.

    Is there one coax coming off the dish to a splitter right now? Or is there four wires coming off the dish to a multi-switch?
     
  11. Jul 21, 2013 #31 of 152
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  12. Jul 21, 2013 #32 of 152
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    Do I still need the Whole-Home DVR Service fee for just the Genie and the Genie clients? I do have 2 other DVRs, but they won't be on the whole home network.
     
  13. Jul 21, 2013 #33 of 152
    Cavicchi

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    My understanding is when having Genie and clients you get that Whole-Home DVR service fee.
     
  14. Jul 21, 2013 #34 of 152
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    Yes, otherwise the clients won't work.
     
  15. Jul 21, 2013 #35 of 152
    peds48

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    But....you keep missing the point.... I never said it wasn't

    All I said is that this is not enforced everywhere, this is a FACT.
     
  16. Jul 24, 2013 #36 of 152
    Cavicchi

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    The Clients are silent but not the Genie. There is a fan in the Genie, HR44, and it does work. I believe it was Solid Signal's review that said HR44 Genie is not as quiet as HR24.

    The only silent DVR I know of is sitting in my house, 500GB hdd_with_no_fan.
     
  17. Jul 24, 2013 #37 of 152
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    I can verify that the HR44 is silent. The hard drive *shouldn't* make any noise, but it all depends on the hard drive. Some hard drives start out silent and over time make more noise. That's just something we will all have to live with until solid state drives are the norm. The power supply on the HR44 is external which eliminates the need for constant fan cooling, there is a fan that does kick on if the unit gets too hot. So if the ambient temperature in the room is high the fan may kick on to protect the system.
     
  18. Jul 24, 2013 #38 of 152
    Cavicchi

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    Bottom line is the HR44 is not silent. Silent is my HD DVR with no fan. You could say the HR44 is almost silent, but to say silent is not accurate.
     
  19. Jul 24, 2013 #39 of 152
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    The HR44 IS silent. The fan is not on 24/7. Only at boot time and IF it gets hot. If you keep the HR44 in an area that has air movement the fan doesn't kick on.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2013 #40 of 152
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    I'm sure the 44 makes some noise, but I haven't heard it. Got one installed last week. Moved an HR24 out of the Living Room and put the 44 in it's place. The 24 we could sometimes hear; but not never when the TV was on.
     

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