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Genie and mini genie questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Cavicchi, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. adamson

    adamson Godfather

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    The "communications tax" in Florida for satellite is way more than catv FYI. We pay like 13% I believe of total bill. CATV will never compare to Directv and should never be compared...two so different services.
     
  2. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    I was talking about our state of PA which is where the OP and myself are from. Satellite has 6% sales tax only

    Blue ridge cable has 6% Sales Tax and, locals taxes as well as some area have an FCC tax.

    Blue ridge cable Taxes on my Moms $107 monthly cable Bill

    Universal Service Fund Fee $4.11
    FCC User fee .08
    Sales Tax. $6.42
    East Stroudsburg Borough Franchise Fee $4.16
    Total $14.77

    My Taxes with a Directv Bill of $132
    Sales Tax 7.92
     
  3. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Stop making the discussion personal. There's no need for the personal comments. Everyone needs to be civil.

    Discuss the topic and not each other or the post is gone. No editing, just gone...there may be other consequences.

    Mike
     
  4. Cavicchi

    Cavicchi Legend

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    "East Stroudsburg Borough Franchise Fee $4.16" - I don't know about that because I don't live in East Stroudsburg.

    If I were to switch to DTV, after one year the savings would be less than $15 dollars. If I were to bundle DTV with Verizon, the savings after one year more than doubles. I have everything with cable, phone, Internet, and TV. If I switch TV service, I lose nice discount for Internet, $15 dollars.

    As to the person who thinks the 8652 HDC DVR has a noisy hdd, I say you never owned that DVR. Are you the person who opened it and saw a fan inside?

    I say you can sit within 3 feet of where my DVR is, and it's in an open cabinet, TV on with no sound, room quiet, and you will not hear anything from that DVR.
     
  5. Cavicchi

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    My total tax from BRC for phone, internet and TV is $12.03, and that includes fees.
     
  6. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    I believe you, but why would one care to do that?

    Fade in..."Sounds of Silence", S&G, a long time ago.
     
  7. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

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    I can agree with most of what you said. My 8652 HDC is most likely quieter than the HR44. I can sit within 3 feet of my DVR and hear nothing in a room where quiet is really QUIET.

    There is no fan in my Cisco 8652 HDC DVR. The operating temperature is stated to be up to 105 degrees Fahrenheit. Because I often game on my PS3 and sometimes xbox 360, my den gets warm, around 80 degrees. No need for me to worry because switching to TV does not activate a fan in my DVR because there is no fan, and I do not hear hdd from within 3 feet.

    I don't hide my DVR--it sits on the shelf below my PS3.


    And even though the HR44 has a fan, in your situation it would be just like your Cisco 8652. You can keep it on your shelf below your PS3 and if the operating temperature stays around 105 degrees, the fan will NEVER kick on. If the fan is not going to be on, it would be just like your cable DVR. The only time the fan would come on then would be when you first plug in the DVR or if the power goes out and the DVR boots back up. Switching to TV will NOT turn on the fan. There is no actual turning the DVR on and off. You take it out of standby and put it into standby, if you so desire, but that does not make the fan turn on. You can sit in your office day after day and the HR44 will be just a silent as your cable DVR since the fan will not be used.

    I just checked and my HR44 is at 108 degrees and it is in a confined location right next to a HR24. I have never had the fan turn on in the HR44 except when I have restarted the DVR and just for about 2 minutes as it starts up.


    - Merg

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  8. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    "East Stroudsburg Borough Franchise Fee $4.16" - I don't know about that because I don't live in East Stroudsburg.

    If I were to switch to DTV, after one year the savings would be less than $15 dollars. If I were to bundle DTV with Verizon, the savings after one year more than doubles. I have everything with cable, phone, Internet, and TV. If I switch TV service, I lose nice discount for Internet, $15 dollars.

    As to the person who thinks the 8652 HDC DVR has a noisy hdd, I say you never owned that DVR. Are you the person who opened it and saw a fan inside?

    I say you can sit within 3 feet of where my DVR is, and it's in an open cabinet, TV on with no sound, room quiet, and you will not hear anything from that DVR.


    How much do you pay for phone? Unless they give you a bundle that makes phone more than free, get ooma. All you pay is taxes. I'll never pay $15 a month or more for phone again. I pay around $3 right now..
     
  9. Cavicchi

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    I'm giving you a point of reference. My computer has 3 SSDs and one fan running at under 800 RPM. The only time you hear that fan is putting your ear next to the computer. When I'm on the computer, I like quiet just as much as when watching TV. Now I'm not saying a slight fan noise (whoosh, not hard) would be totally objectionable, but silent is my goal, just as it is with computers. I built my computer years ago with silent in mind. The rear fan operates at under 800 RPM, and 3 SSDs negate the need for excessive cooling. The cooler, Scythe Ninja, is tall with fins and can be used with or without a fan. In case you're wondering. my processor is the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. Yeah, kind of ancient now, but serves my purpose :) My Video card is the SILENT NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT--no fan!

    Forgot to make it clear that when on the computer, I sit within 3 feet of my DVR.
     
  10. Cavicchi

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    Okay, Merg, I can accept what you say, but there still is a matter of why make the switch to DTV. I was in fact going to make that switch when doing the Verizon Package with DTV. First I called DTV and they offered me lots of discounts with free Genie and free 2 mini genies, free installation and I got them to waive the shipping and handling charge--and I still have that email from DTV to prove what I say. However, I need BRC for the Internet, unless I want 3 MB speed from Verizon, which I don't. Thus, I need BRC for Internet and if I leave their TV service, I get hit with $15 dollars more in cost. DTV offers 3 months of free premiums, BRC offers 1 year of free premiums! Anyway, after one year with DTV my savings is minimal, very minor, so not worth it when considering signal reliability.

    DTV axed my deal with Verizon because I had DTV service within the past 2 years. If I could get that Verizon deal, after one year my savings would more than double, which I could accept. I don't watch much TV and we don't need megatons of DVR recording time.

    What I figured was if the HR44 was too noisy, I could put the mini genie in my den. Now, if the HR44 fan can stay "asleep" for me, then that's good. Hopefully that big terabyte hdd doesn't create any problems.

    The PS3 generates a lot of heat, as does my xbox 360. With central air on, my den can easily be 8 degrees warmer than the living room. I often keep the door to my den closed when smoking a pipe.
     
  11. Mike Bertelson

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    These are questions that nobody here can answer for you. The fact is once you sign up you're on the hook. If you think the HR44 is too noisy there's nothing you can do until the commitment is up...unless you pay the ETF.

    Another thing to consider is you may not even get an HR44. Unless you purchase one from a retailer you just might get an HR34. It's larger and a bit noiser (not much IMHO) than the HR44.

    There's no one here who can provide you with any more information to help you make a decision. I really wish there is but what's been posted by those who actually have an HR44 is about all there is.

    The only question left is whether or not you're going to get DIRECTV or not. If noise is your largest concern, and based on the time you've spent discussing it I have to assume it is, then this may not be a good fit for you. :shrug:

    However, I doubt you'll find another whole home DVR from any provider that will meet your noise needs. That may also be a consideration...which will be the least noisy.

    Mike
     
  12. Cavicchi

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    I don't need whole home DVR. Everyone here has their own DVR and we like it that way, and we could like it the other way.

    I really made it clear when I would go to DTV in my post above. If I were to go by signal reliability, then of course I'd stay with cable. However, I don't watch much TV so that Verizon package including DTV is an option because it saves a nice chunk of money after the first year!

    As I said previously, DTV axed that Verizon deal because I had service within the past 2 years. There is absolutely no problem for me to get DTV service going directly with DTV, includes all kinds of discounts, etc.

    By the way, when I called DTV and we set up delivery, later cancelled by me, DTV person and I can give you his first name, said I would get the HR44 when I told him that is what I want. He lied, you know and I know. But, that is one difference you will not encounter with BRC. I told them I wanted the new Cisco 8652HDC and they said that's what you'll get, and that is what I got. Dtv could do the same but won't. All they have to do is first ask new customer if willing to wait until local distributor has XXX model DVR. If person says yes, they wait until XXX can be delivered.

    Now, knowing what I do about how DTV works, nothing new because I had DTV service within past 2 years, actually a year ago, I would make it known to my local DTV distributor, the one DTV uses for installations, that I want HR44. I'd call a few days before scheduled install and find out if they have and are going to bring HR44. If they have it, I accept delivery. If they come without it, I do not accept installation.
     

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