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Genie client audio drop out when TV is off

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by stanb42, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Jul 1, 2014 #1 of 13
    stanb42

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    Recently upgraded to Genie + 2 clients. Really no problems, I self installed, everything wonderful.....

    EXCEPT: We enjoyed listening to either the music channels or our media share library with the television set off. With my older setups, I connected the audio out to my stereo, set up the music, then turned the TV off. With my new set up, when I turn the TV off (HDMI connected), after about 30 seconds I lose the audio from the digital coax output. If I then unplug the HDMI cable from the client to the TV, the audio returns. So obviously the client takes its audio "cue" from the HDMI connection on whether or not to be active. I looked for some settings, but didn't find them. Any suggestions?
     
  2. Jul 1, 2014 #2 of 13
    peds48

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    1. Leave the TV ON
    2. Use component instead of HDMI
     
  3. Jul 1, 2014 #3 of 13
    stanb42

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    Well, #1 defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do, and #2 is not an option.

    On the Genie clients the only outputs are HDMI, digital audio and A/V out (which looks like the old S-Video format, which is not compatible with my TV).

    It was nice to have the music playing as I went to sleep. Leaving the TV on would have a light in my face.
     
  4. Jul 1, 2014 #4 of 13
    texasbrit

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    This is an HDCP copy protection issue. The Genie and its clients all enforce HDCP copy protection. When you switch the TV off (actually to standby) the HDMI link fails the HDCP copy protection tests and so the receiver shuts down all its outputs.
    You can solve this by getting a POWERED HDMI splitter (from Monoprice etc). Most of these devices will work, but I can't give you an actual model number. Check the reviews on the Monoprice web site.
    Connect the Tv to one output, leave the other empty. When the TV goes to standby the splitter maintains the HDCP copy protection and so the receiver outputs don't shut down.
     
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  5. Jul 1, 2014 #5 of 13
    peds48

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    Actually that output is a "special" connector that using the correct cable can give you either component or composite outputs
     
  6. Jul 1, 2014 #6 of 13
    stanb42

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    The copy protect answer seems reasonable. Thanks.

    So no solution without buying more hardware....


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  7. Jul 2, 2014 #7 of 13
    Laxguy

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    How old is the AVR? Many do Pandora natively. Or if you have an iPhone, iPad, these could feed the AVR...
     
  8. Jul 2, 2014 #8 of 13
    stanb42

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    If I buy new hardware, I'll probably go with the Apple TV.


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  9. Jul 2, 2014 #9 of 13
    Beerstalker

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    The component cable adapter they are talking about is much cheaper than buying an Apple TV (although I do like the Apple TV). As long as your TV has a component input this to me is the best option (unless you are using 3D, or watch a lot of 1080p PPV, which require HDMI). It says it is for the H25, but it also works for the Genie Mini Clients.

    http://www.amazon.com/Directv-H25-Component-Video-Cable/dp/B006R9O2PC/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404316342&sr=8-1&keywords=directv+component+adapter
     
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  10. stanb42

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    Yes, but does the composite connection reduce my resolution?


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  11. Laxguy

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    Composite will, and drastically. However, component will be fine for anything but 1080p, which is infrequently available for stuff you want to watch. (Such as the Giants series! :) )
     
  12. Beerstalker

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    The adapter cable I linked to on Amazon is component, not composite. It supports up to 1080i, so it will work for everything except 3D and a few 1080p PPV/On Demand movies (which would be downscaled to 1080i and play fine, just not displayed in 1080p).
     
  13. stanb42

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    My bad. Wrong word. Thx for help.


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