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Genie HR44 just installed--couple problems cropped up

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Lord Vader, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Lord Vader

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    No DECA in my setup. MRV is via the old-fashioned method, that being hard-wired ethernet.

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  2. The Merg

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    Now if I can only figure out why one of my HR20-700s is the only receiver not showing on any other box's Whole Home DVR menu or playlist.


    Check the Whole Home settings for the HR20 to make sure it is set to share its playlist and can be seen by external devices...


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  3. Lord Vader

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    Been there, done that. No luck. I'm going to rerun network setup and all, see if that helps. This receiver happens to do this quite frequently, BTW.


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  4. inkahauts

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    did you install a bsf between the hr44 and the rest of the system, preferably as far away from the hr44 as possible? I hope so, if not you could have issues from that eventually, if not right now.

    I suggest rerunning sat setup and then restoring network defaults and then leaving it all alone for a day.


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  5. Lord Vader

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    It's working now, after I redid the network stuff as I mentioned above.

    To answer your question, however--no. I've never used a bsf (if that means what I think it means).
     
  6. inkahauts

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    band stop filter. You have to otherwise the genie will eventually screw up the tuners on the other non deca built in models. Genies have a built in cck and always output Ethernet over coax if an Ethernet cable is plugged into it or its hooked up wireless on te hr44. That signal needs to be blocked by a bsf as far away from the genie as possible to keep its voltage from hitting the tuners in the other receivers as they aren't made to handle it.


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  7. Lord Vader

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    Is it necessary in an environment where one doesn't have DECA (or anything like that at all)? My Whole Home DVR is the old-fashioned method--the "unofficial" ethernet cable to all DVRs.

    And where do you recommend the BSF (yes, I did know what that meant, LOL) be located? In a room or near the dish? Just checking.

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  8. NR4P

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    My HR44 will respond to any Directv IR remote in its default mode. I have RC32's thru RC65's and never put in 00004 into any of them and 3 for 3 all control the HR44. So maybe yours was changed in all the work you were doing. But they do default to 00001 so folks with older remotes can use them as is.

    Unless the new HR44's are different. I suppose anything is possible.
     
  9. The Merg

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    Is it necessary in an environment where one doesn't have DECA (or anything like that at all)? My Whole Home DVR is the old-fashioned method--the "unofficial" ethernet cable to all DVRs.

    And where do you recommend the BSF (yes, I did know what that meant, LOL) be located? In a room or near the dish? Just checking.

    Thanks


    It is very much needed in a non-DECA environment. The HR44 doesn't know that so it will send the Ethernet traffic over the coax lines. Put it as far away from the HR44 as possible. Basically, back at the first splitter, or I believe in your case, at the SWM2 Output of the SWM16.


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  10. Lord Vader

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    So if I connect one BSF to out #2 of the SWM16, life will be good, correct? Is one BSF all that I need?
     
  11. The Merg

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    So if I connect one BSF to out #2 of the SWM16, life will be good, correct? Is one BSF all that I need?


    Yes and yes.


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  12. Lord Vader

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    OK. That's easy enough. I don't have a BSF, but I can easily and quickly enough get one. While I wait for it, the lack of one isn't going to "damage" any equipment I have, will it? On a related note, a question for ya--would it be any significant difference if I went to a DECA environment and ditched my current ethernet MRV situation? After all, the current setup is, admittedly, working just fine, so maybe I should follow the ole cliché that says, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
     
  13. The Merg

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    OK. That's easy enough. I don't have a BSF, but I can easily and quickly enough get one. While I wait for it, the lack of one isn't going to "damage" any equipment I have, will it? On a related note, a question for ya--would it be any significant difference if I went to a DECA environment and ditched my current ethernet MRV situation? After all, the current setup is, admittedly, working just fine, so maybe I should follow the ole cliché that says, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


    With DECA, you'd only have one Ethernet cable going to the Genie, so you'd free up some ports on your router/switch. You'd also isolate the MRV traffic from your local network traffic, which would help to prevent any issues that might cause.


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  14. The Merg

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    As for using the system without the BSF, you will probably be fine for a short period of time. I wouldn't do it long-term though. There is the possibility that you might see some minor issues though although once the BSF is installed, you'll be fine.


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    Well, I do have a 24-port ethernet multi-port switch behind my home theater setup, and to this is connected the receivers, a BD player, AV unit, etc., so it's not like I need to free up my router, which is in another room (there's a second Internet connection port in my living room; hence my ability to directly connect the ethernet multi-port switch). If I went DECA, I'd then have to buy a DECA coax for every non-HR44 and non-HR24 receiver I own, then perhaps other items, so the cost might be a precluding factor. If everything's working fine as it is, it's probably not a good idea to go DECA.
     
  16. The Merg

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    Well, I do have a 24-port ethernet multi-port switch behind my home theater setup, and to this is connected the receivers, a BD player, AV unit, etc., so it's not like I need to free up my router, which is in another room (there's a second Internet connection port in my living room; hence my ability to directly connect the ethernet multi-port switch). If I went DECA, I'd then have to buy a DECA coax for every non-HR44 and non-HR24 receiver I own, then perhaps other items, so the cost might be a precluding factor. If everything's working fine as it is, it's probably not a good idea to go DECA.


    It's really just a preference at this point for you. Your cost would be DECAs for the HR2x (non-HR24's) receivers. The DECA comes with a jumper cable for the Ethernet connection. You would just disconnect the coax and Ethernet you currently have connected, connect the DECA in between the coax and the receiver and connect the Ethernet jumper from the DECA to the receiver.


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  17. Lord Vader

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    Got it. I'd need 4 of these, so it looks like I'll stick with the current setup, which is running fine.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    I forget what's all Your receiver model numbers? It might be easier to just get bsf For the four and let the rest run coax. A true hybrid system. Especially since I think you said some where going to get deactivated soon enough.


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  19. Lord Vader

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    Two HR20-700s, an HR21, HR22, and two HR24s. The HR22 and one HR20-700 will be deactivated shortly, with the other HR20-700 to follow soon afterward.
     
  20. Lord Vader

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    OK, problem #3 developed this morning...

    My HR44 has lost Internet connectivity. It's connected via an ethernet cable directly to the Internet and was working fine last night. It saw all other receivers for MRV and other receivers saw it. Connection tests indicated "your receiver is connected to the Internet." By this morning, however, that mysteriously changed. Every test I run tells me it's not connected to the Internet, and its presence is no longer seen in my MRV setup. I've rebooted the thing, but that hasn't worked. Any idea what could have happened and how to resolve this?

    BTW, when I reran satellite dish setup, Slimline 5 was showing, as it was yesterday. However, yesterday the SWM was showing. Today, that has been grayed out entirely, and I'm not even able to "recheck SWM" in the menu options shown. Weird.
     

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