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Genie on non-SWN setup?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by norwestie, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. norwestie

    norwestie New Member

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    I currently have 2 HD DVRs and 2 HD receivers (sorry, I don't have the model numbers) connected to a Slimline dish with 4 cables running into the house. Each of the DVRs has 2 coax cables connected. Occasionally, we take the 2 receivers camping in our motorhome. We have a Winegard Trav'ler on the RV and I understand they don't play well with SWM receivers.
    What I would like to do is get a Genie to replace one DVR and keep the rest of the hardware the same. Can a SWM (Genie) and non-SWM receiver coexist on the same network?
     
  2. FlyingDiver

    FlyingDiver All Star/Supporter

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    It's not hard to convert a Trav'ler setup to SWM. Winegard actually makes a kit for it. You mount the SWM-8 on the roof near the Trav'ler, run 4 short coax lines between them, then connect the lines going into the RV to the SWM.

    Am I correct that you don't use the (non-DVR) receivers at home? Just the DVRs. That's the only way you could do it without SWM or a multi-switch. But you do use the receivers in the RV?

    I think all the HD receivers will work with SWM. Only the newest ones (HR34, H25) require SWM.
     
  3. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    No DIRECTV satellite receiver outside of the Genie requires SWiM to tune satellite channels.

    It is possible (though bothersome) to switch back and forth between SWiM and Legacy.

    The takeaway is that as long as you don't plan on doing WHDS or using the Genie in the RV, you're not up against a wall.
     
  4. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL DIRECTV A-Team

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    Wrong! The H25 requires SWiM. Maybe you should leave the postings in the DirecTV area to DirecTV subscribers. :)
     
  5. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    The H25 is SWiM only.
     
  6. norwestie

    norwestie New Member

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    A little more info may help. I do use the Whole House to watch what is on one DVR on the receiver in the theater. All 4 boxes are in use and e-net networked. What does DTV charge for the Genie client boxes?
     
  7. FlyingDiver

    FlyingDiver All Star/Supporter

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    I'm confused. Do you have a multi-switch in your setup? If you've got 2 tuners at each DVR plus the two receivers, you must have one somewhere.

    Up front cost for the C31 client is officially $99, but you can often get a package deal. It's $6/mo, same as any other receiver.
     
  8. norwestie

    norwestie New Member

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    All the equipment was installed about eight or nine years ago, I think before SWM. There is a multiswitch installed but I'm not home now so I can't tell what kind.
    In answer to an earlier question, we would use the receivers in the RV, never the Genie.
     
  9. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    While it was before the SWiM came out, this:
    wasn't that long ago. Closer to maybe 5 years.

    Moving to a Genie will require an upgrade to SWiM, and there just isn't an easy way to mix SWiM and non SWiM.

    It might be easiest to move both the house and the RV to SWiM.

    If this isn't what you want, then your current multi-switch would need to be changed to a SWiM-16, and have your two HD receivers connected to the legacy ports. This would let them move to the RV without problems.
    Receivers seems to have a hard time changing back from SWiM to legacy.
     
  10. samrs

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    Winegard Trav'ler

    HD or SD?
     
  11. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    My bad. Those intending to use their receivers in a portable application should probably avoid the H25 for this and other reasons.
     
  12. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL DIRECTV A-Team

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    Why? SWiM is just as, if not more, portable than old multiswitches.
     
  13. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    I disagree with this as the power inserter can be a pain in the behind sometimes.
     
  14. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL DIRECTV A-Team

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    How? All you have to do is hook it up to the power passing leg of your splitter and plug it into an outlet. And that's only if you have newer one that doesn't have an input and output RG6.
     
  15. FlyingDiver

    FlyingDiver All Star/Supporter

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    It's an SL-5 dish.
     
  16. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Any device that requires a PI is a PITA; be that a SWiM dish or outboard switch.
     
  17. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL DIRECTV A-Team

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    Maybe to you but not to me. A PI is pretty straightforward and very easy to setup.
     
  18. FlyingDiver

    FlyingDiver All Star/Supporter

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    I've never found installing a PI to be that big a deal. My only objection to them is that they're designed very poorly, and generate a lot of heat that can be problematical in enclosed cabinets. There's no reason at all they should be generating that much heat, except that a better design would cost more for the components.

    For that matter, the DECA units also generate more heat than I think they need to. Obviously this is not a concern to DirecTV.
     
  19. dpeters11

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    I've only known one to catch fire :)
     
  20. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 DIRECTV A-Team

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    Correct.

    Have been running more than one literally for years...never had a single issue.
     

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