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Getting the Job Done! Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, U.S. Army; 'A John Wayne Dude'

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  1. Sep 5, 2005 #1 of 33
    BuckeyeChris

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    Leading the U.S. Army First Division, Lt. Gen. Russel Honore has become my hero for his kick-ass, get the job done attitude in the disaster recovery.

    It also doesn't hurt that he just gave a joint press conference, along with the Homeland Security Secretary, in which he told a reporter that a congressman's statements was "B.S.!" He said B.S. several times. :p (Does anyone know the context of his answer, and the congressman to whom he was referring?)

    When asked by a female reporter if New Orleans was secure, he answered (paraphrasing):

    Honore: Have you been in New Orleans recently?
    Reporter: Yes
    Honore: Were you accosted?
    Reporter: No
    Honore: Then I don't see why security is still such an issue!



    I bet Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff was taken back at the General's bravado. But when Gen. Honore excused himself and said he was leaving, as Chertoff was beginning to say something, Chertoff said that he too was leaving because this press conference was finished.

    Chertoff didn't looked upset. On the contrary, he looked relieved because the General had said what he wanted to say. But because of politics, he couldn't. The General, however, appears not to give a damn about politics. Quite refreshing!


    This is the kind of press conference that I like to see. :D
     

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    mainedish

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    Less talk and more walk. I like him too.
     
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    I'd vote for him, and I don't even have a clue from which side of the isle he resides because he is obviously more clued in than people from either side.
     
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    bobsupra

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    Minor correction (but it is important to those who care), LTG Honore is over the First Army, not 1st Division. The First Army is one of two continental commands responsible for coordination of army reserve matters.

    He is one hell of a dude, native of LA, and a take charge guy.
     
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    Nick

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    :listenup: Git-R-Done, General - you lead, they'll follow or we'll kick some major butt :kickbutt: We've got your back, and the beer is on the guys and gals in Gold Forum when when this thing is over. :goodjob:

    :alterhase Smoke 'em if you got 'em! !pride
     
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    jonstad

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    Given the context of the situation, he appears to be exactly the politically incorrect, take-charge kind of guy needed for the job. And being a "local" won't hurt either.

    Isn't Honore a french name though?:D;)
     
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    bobsupra

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    While Honore is of French deviation, the good general is Cajun through and through. His accent gives it away. But I'll bet he can swear in French also.
     
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    His picture reminds me of the Iraqi Minister of (Mis)Information. I don't know why...maybe the silly black beret. Either way, he definitely appears to be in charge down there.
     
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    jonstad

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    Not familiar with the term. Does that mean he's into bondage? S&M? Or just French ticklers!;):lol:
     
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    It means I have fat fingers (and a weird spell checker).
     
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    :lol:

    It was just too perfectly a fruedian straight line to pass up.:blush:
     
  12. Danny R

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    While many will probably think its ultimately a bad solution, perhaps militarizing future catastrophes is the way to handle things. The military, if anything, does have a solid chain of command and things ordered at the top usually get done.

    Katrina, if anything, illustrates the weakness of a bureaucratic system with far too many bosses and layers.
     
  13. Geronimo

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    Teo words Danny Posse Comitatus. 20/20 hindsight is great but there are certain prices associated with using the guard unbder federal control. Hard to imagine that it could ahve been worse here. But in many cases that eould bea valid concern.
     
  14. Danny R

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    Posse Comitatus

    Yes, I'm aware of current law. Obviously I'm talking about changing the way things in the future are organized. Strong central control during emergencies is absolutely needed, and wasn't available here. Short term political leaders are compromised by too many factors that perhaps a military commander could ignore.

    The primary fear I believe is that of a military coupe d'etat. I'm not certain thats valid today however as it might have been earlier in our nation's history.
     
  15. Geronimo

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    Well we would have to change the law. And that would be quite the hornet's nest. The primary fear was nota coup d'etat BTW.
     
  16. Richard King

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    You got that right, and the Chief hit on the biggest problem. I am amazed that we haven't heard more about Posse Comitatus in all this.
     
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    In Louisiiana it was mentioned. I have no idea what the popualtiona sa whole thought of it before and after. And I would not trust any polls staken right now either.
     
  18. Geronimo

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    In Louisiana it was mentioned. I have no idea what the popualtion asa whole thought of it before and after. And I would not trust any polls staken right now either.

    Somehow I don't think that the 4 thread train wreck of the last few days really lent itself to a discussion of the historical, legal and cultural significance of Posse Comitatus.
     
  19. Richard King

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    Well, because of the history behind the enactment of Posse Comitatus, I would suspect that we would have heard much more about it if the feds had just gone in.
     
  20. Richard King

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    I tried and brought it up in it's own thread quite some time ago. That thread is now somewhere down at the bottom of the list.
     
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