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Give DTV a First Quarter Report Card

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by ISWIZ, Feb 28, 2006.

How do you grade the R15 for the first quarter

  1. A - Above average, the best, I wish I had invented it.

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  2. B - Better than most, a little hiccup here and there.

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  3. C - Could be improved, has some minor difficulties.

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  4. D - Did not impress me, too many problems.

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  5. E - Even if they gave it away, I’m not sure I’d take it.

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  6. F - Foolishly released way before it was ready, a complete disaster.

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  1. gvaughn

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    Reminds us why we, at least some of us, got the R15 in the first place!!! There's a lot of good options/features with the R15. Here's hoping it will eventually be able to do these things in a very stable, and bug free, manner!!
     
  2. walters

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    I'm sure that I could find real stats, not made-up ones, to completely disprove that if I cared enough to.
     
  3. Bobman

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    Very true. Its offers so much more than the DirecTiVos as you can see and once the bugs get worked out it will be a sweet unit.
     
  4. Bobman

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    I created a topic in the DirecTiVo section to discuss the pros/cons and give opinons on the guide issue.
     
  5. ISWIZ

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    My first thought was, "I know some have said they sent it back even though they got it for free (with the rebate)". So then when I read your response and see the grades now I'm like, well where are they.

    Well duh, they probably don't even come in here anymore if they no longer have one:lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  6. morgantown

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    Probably true. I kept mine and still stop by in hopes that the kinks will be worked out so I can activate it again and actually get some good use from it.

    I must say though, for all the complaints I read from some posters it is remarkable how much they defend the R15 in one post and then slam it in another. Weird.

    The R15 is the future of DVR's with DTV and for that reason alone I'm keenly interested in its development...and hope nothing but the best for it/us.
     
  7. ghost

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    I must just be lucky. I have had the R 15 lock up and freeze exactly three times since getting it 04 February. Since the software upgrade I have had nothing but pleasure from it. I'm very happy.
     
  8. zortapa

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    I might be one of these wierd folks. While 95% of my posts strongly support the R15, the other 5% come immediately after a long, usually unsuccessful, battle with it!
     
  9. Bud33

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    I voted "C" but I guess I could have Voted "A" since this is my first DR of any kind, I seem to have few problems.
    I've read so many complaints I wonder what I am doing wrong. Then I think, Those who don't have problems probably don't write in these forms.
     
  10. siquepupi

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    F - I am one of those who went back to the R10s.
    I will be checking back from time to time for the input trying to see when the majority of the bugs have been addressed. Most of my complaints are the same ones being metioned over & over so I wont repeat those, but one that is particularly annoying that I dont see dicussed much is the constant rerecording of the same repeated episodes. I really like the fact that I can put shows from comedy central which repeat a dozen times a week. on a low priority season pass and not worry about missing an episode due to conflicts. when I do this with the R15 I get all of the repeats & no show description to let me know when it is a different episode. I then wind up spending 20 minutes deleting.
     
  11. cabanaboy1977

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    I'm in the same boat as you, it's that 5% when I need to vent and to ponder why it's doing what it's doing. I still love it and think it will get there I just don't know how long that is going to take. And as long as they keep reading/listening to this forum and fix/improve what is wrong/not there, then we should have a wonderful unit.
     
  12. mccskey

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    Bobman,
    I think we are the same page. We can play tennis all day long about the feature deltas between the units. I think it is somewhat unfair to compare since DTV has basically put the brakes on with TIVO. I could go on and on about how good the DTV tivo box could be with HMO, MRV, Tivotogo, mature platform, reliabilty etc....
    I understand DTV is weening customers off tivo to their new R15 platform, but it seems to be unfair to expect existing customers to take a R15 that doesn't do the basics very well or reliable yet...


    Here are my responses...
    1) Your first 2 points are the same thing... It is nice to have a small video picture while you are setting up recordings, doing other maintenance etc, or viewing a recording... If I'm going to be setting up or doing maintenance on the box I really don't care if I can see the video. If its that important to see video just press pause. How long does one need to spend in the menu... Last I checked, I'd rather watch a show than be playing in the menu tree...
    2) The one line guide... Plus for the R15 except for the fact that do I press the red or is it the blue or is it the yellow button or green button to toggle 12hrs in eiter directions...
    3) Free space indicator...This is a nice to have feature, but is not impearative.
    4)Much longer buffers??? They don't work. You will need to go on and on with this benefit.
    5)Guides- Last I check if I press the guide button on Tivo I get to the guide. The R15 takes me to a filtering menu, every single time. Guides are personal preferences, I prefer the Tivo guide over the grid.
    6)Interactive & Active, DTV boxes have had this ability for quite some time. The issue here is that DTV is no longer supporting or no longer providing Tivo upgrades. How about playing your Mp3's or photos on your unit. If DTV would only give the keys to our tivo boxes....:nono2:
    7)Thank god I have caller Id on my phone, cause it doesn't work on my R15.
    8)Conflict screens, I have yet to have this issue, so I have no comment
     
  13. morgantown

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    Hey zortapa,

    I'm really not refering to any individuals here as weird -- just the posting behavior (if that makes any sense). Sometimes it "seems" as if there is a zealous need to defend the short-comings of the R15, and then complain how they don't work in two different threads at the same time.

    I definately understand where you are coming from though :D.
     
  14. Clint Lamor

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    Just because someone likes a product and defends it doesn't always mean they think it's perfect or actually is perfect. Some people defend TiVo to no end but it still doesn't mean it's perfect. It may be better in current form then the R15 but it still has it's fair share of problems.
     
  15. Bobman

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    Ability to directly record XM channels, no backdoor.

    Download PPV's to watch later without paying and if you dont watch you dont pay.

    Way more sort options in the VOD (Now playing List)

    Able to see the program descritions in the VOD without clicking on the program.

    Manual recording can be done in1 minute increments not 5 like DirecTiVos.

    Cool blue whirling swirling light on the box. :hurah:

    FF and RR at 4x is much faster.

    Main menu is small overlay not a full screen so you can still watch TV when looking for options not sit in silence.

    Two favorite channels lists not one like DirecTiVo.

    Stores previous channels viewed for quick recall

    A lot more Parental Control options.
     
  16. Bobman

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    I am only listing the features the R-15 has that the DirecTivo's dont like a poster asked about. Its called answering a users question and helping out. Its a few obvious DirecTiVo lovers that turned this into a tit for tat game.

    Not once did I say it works better than the DirecTiVos as in its present state it doesnt and thats rather obvious and doesnt need to be stated in every post here. However it DOES have many many features the DirecTiVos dont and I know its burning up a few people here to have to hear them.

    These are features in the product NOW not maybes or should haves. If someone doesnt like one of the featues great but its still a feature the R-15 has the DirecTiVos dont and an answer to someones question.

    It is NOT to argue and debate the R-15 vs. the DirecTivo as this is not the place for it. I NEVER would have listed these things if not asked by a user about what features the R-15 has that the DirecTivo's dont.
     
  17. Bobman

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    Sorry, but we are talking what features they DO have not woulda coulda shoulda have and maybe if's ?

    If you dont like a feature the R-15 has that the DirecTivos dont, fine, great and thats your preference, but its still a "feature" the R-15 has that the DirecTivos dont and why its in my answer to the original posters question.

    There is a DirecTiVo forum here and post all you want about the benefits of the DirecTivo there.
     
  18. ISWIZ

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    Actually as I (maybe only me) take exception to running anyone off this forum as long as they are respectful of others. Even Tivo fanatics (of which I also am, but within reason) have things to add to the discussion.

    The reason I bring this up is because I very much disliked the way the TCF running off any disussion of the R15. I know, it was their dime, just not cool, and I always thought Tivo was cool. Another myth shattered.:(
     
  19. Wolffpack

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    If one wants spend the time comparing features of the R15 and DTivo it is a little tough to do in two different threads under two different forums.

    Bobman you are breaking your own rule stated above even by listing features of the R15 that the DTivo lacks as you're referring to the DTivo.
     
  20. Clint Lamor

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    Ya we don't need to be like TCF and ban talk of another DVR here. Honestly I barely ever post anymore over there because of that stance. I still have my TiVos and still think they are great but I will just save my comments and insight for somewhere that i'm open to talk about a competing product. :)
     
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