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GM-Chrysler: What would you toss?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Oct 31, 2008 #41 of 135
    SledDog

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    It may be the first serious design, to you, but at a price between 30,000 to 40,000 dollars. Dump it...

    Put the rearch into a smaller car/truck that will get over 40 to the gallon. Or produce something completely electric at a price people can afford. Not just those that want to be fashionable... For 40 grand, you can by 3 Smart Cars and have enough money to put gas in them all for a year.

    But I guess when Ford can hype a hybrid that get 24 mpg and carriers 7, and people buy it, what can you say...

    What needs to be dumped is every GM car with little rearward visiblity and designed in blind spots. Why is it that GM thinks no body wants to have a clear of what's beside or behind you...

    As for Chrysler products, you have to keep the mini vans, or soccer moms will not be able to cut you off in traffic. :lol:
     
  2. Oct 31, 2008 #42 of 135
    SDizzle

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    Keep the soccer moms happy, Ford already told them to pound sand a couple years ago, LOL!
     
  3. Oct 31, 2008 #43 of 135
    dhhaines

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    The soccer mom's around here drive Suburbans.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2008 #44 of 135
    wxx

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    Bailout is for UAW, not auto firms.

    I knew a tow truck operator, who told me he only bought Toyota s or Honda s because he rarely got calls to tow these brands.

    This seemed good advice to me.

    Around here, lots of the old guys have Escalades. Thia make was just rated dead last in big SUVs by Consumer Reports.

    After these old guy go to the big golf course in the sky, who's left to look at such loser US brands?
     
  5. Oct 31, 2008 #45 of 135
    Spicoli

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    Oh to have a 3/4 ton Suburban with a Cummins diesel!
     
  6. Oct 31, 2008 #46 of 135
    paulh

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    That's a good question. Which components should remain? GM's generally known for reliable auto trannies (something Chrysler and now Honda cannot say)

    The 2009 Aspen/Durango will have an available hybrid model using the same system GM already uses in it's Tahoe Hybrid.. (System developed with Merc and BMW?)

    But gas-guzzlers' days are numbered. I believe GM has already stated that they have cancelled any future models (Except the 2009 uber-Vette) that do not improve fuel economy.
    Dodge seemed to be interested in off-loading it's hand-made Viper production before the talks...
     
  7. Oct 31, 2008 #47 of 135
    paulh

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    Stuart Sweet

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    It would be interesting if Viper is spun off to a private manufacturer. A long, long time ago Studebaker did that with its sports car, the Avanti. It survived for about 25 years after Studebaker went under.
     
  9. Oct 31, 2008 #49 of 135
    Spicoli

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    It would be nice to have the Cummins power in front of an Allison tranny. :D
     
  10. Oct 31, 2008 #50 of 135
    ProfLonghair

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    After some rethought, what I would toss is much more simple:

    The UAW.
     
  11. Nov 1, 2008 #51 of 135
    hdtvfan0001

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    ...which explains the gas shortages.... :D

    Any vehicle that doesn't get 25 MPG should be scrapped right out of the gate, and yes, that includes those 90% underutilized SUVs. :eek2:
     
  12. Nov 1, 2008 #52 of 135
    jclewter79

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    There is no gas shortage. Some people need larger vehicles don't punish them just because you don't think they utilize them enough.
     
  13. Nov 1, 2008 #53 of 135
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    I assume you mean on the highway? If so, that is not a good plan since most fuel consumed by passenger vehicles is when they are driven in local traffic.

    I have no problem with people driving SUV's. In fact, I have two of them, one compatc and one midsize crossover. My problem is when I see people burning 2/3 of their miles in those huge SUV's (Tahoe, Suburban Expedition) with nothing more then the driver.
     
  14. Nov 1, 2008 #54 of 135
    jclewter79

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    Some people are trading comfort and space for fuel mileage because they have to. Others are not because they can afford not to and do not want to. That is the freedom of being an American. One day the automakers will make the larger vehicles get better milage because the market demands it now. Others will continue to drive them now because they want to and that is OK no matter how many people the have riding because they can and, thats ok too.
     
  15. Nov 2, 2008 #55 of 135
    Steve Mehs

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    99% of the time I'm the only passenger in my Aviator, big deal. It seats 7. I like the thing, I'll drive it. And if I could have afforded it, I would have had big brother Navigator. As long as I work, I have every right to buy what I want so long as it is not against the law and no one can tell me otherwise. 13.7 MPG according to the display, do I care? Not really. I've been a fan of Lincolns forever, specially the Navigator since before it was in production, now I have something very close, just a tab bit smaller. I'm not giving up on my deam truck for something as stupid as gas prices. I've worked hard to be able to afford this thing, and it will not be given up, until, one day I do get a better job that will allow me to buy a brand new Navigator L.
     
  16. Nov 2, 2008 #56 of 135
    ProfLonghair

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    Any other choices in my life you feel you are more qualified than me to make? Last I checked, I was still in America, and for the next few months, anyway, we are still free to choose what we want.

    (sorry, I know you are a decent guy, and don't really want to flame, but any time someone acts like they know what's better for me hacks me off. And, I don' tdrive an SUV, probably won't. But not for gas mileage. Have you ever tried drifting in an Escalade?)
     
  17. Nov 2, 2008 #57 of 135
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    Steve: I ask you this in all sincerity. How do you feel about filling up and knowing that up to 25% or so of what you're paying is going to terrorists and/or the countries that support them?

    As a follow-up, if they built a big truck-like Volt (the new Chevy that runs entirely on electricity and the engine is only there to recharge the batteries on long trips as the batteries can also be recharged at home - they're saying a 40-mile range on electricity alone), would you pay extra for that?
     
  18. Nov 2, 2008 #58 of 135
    jclewter79

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    Everybody that has a vehicle that runs on petrolium based products sends 25% of their fuel purchases to terrorist and countries that support them.
     
  19. Nov 2, 2008 #59 of 135
    harsh

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    So which company goes away: Chrysler or Dodge? I suspect that the Chrysler nameplate isn't long for the world.
     
  20. Nov 2, 2008 #60 of 135
    harsh

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    I think you would have a tough time making a case for a 40+MPG truck. The VW Rabbit pickup appeals only to the biodiesel set and can scarcely carry the used cooking fat required to keep it running.
     

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