Hoosier, I've never seen such contempt for a company in my life. You seem to scour the net looking for Dish bashing opportunities. Did a Dish van run over your dog or something? Of course we'd all like better PQ from all providers, D* included. But Dish's HD-lite still beats most cable HD. I realize I'm talking to a wall, but for the benefit of others who may be on the fence, there is barely any visible difference between Dish and D* HD unless you have a really big screen. I wonder how many HD snobs who raved about the royal wedding coverage on D* even realized they were watching HD-lite courtesy of BBC's feed to all the networks.