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Good Riddance DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by JPdeJager, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    See, learn something new all the time. Didnt know you could ignore threads. Problem is, I use iSPY, so the threads show up even for the blocked ones (persons), but may not for threads. Will have to investigate further. Thanks.
     
  2. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I use Firefox and ffvb add-on
     
  3. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Did an add on search for FFVB and didnt find anything. You get it from the firefox add on site?
     
  4. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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  5. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Thanks
     
  6. MartyS

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    I'd like to see a link to that one. Many HOA's and Condo associations have negotiated a "group" contract with a cable company or a satellite company. In those cases, basic service is included in the monthly assessments. If an owner wants additional services above and beyond basic, then they contract for that individually.

    I know our HOA brought it up about 2 years ago, and we as homeowners did not want a negotiated contract, since many people had other options for TV service, so our board didn't get into one.

    Back to my original point, Jeff... I'd love to see a link where it says that associations can't negotiate and include costs in monthly assessments.
     
  7. zimm7778

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    Don't get me wrong, I despise this cable company but in my current situation it's really about the only option we have. That said, our monthly HOA is only like $33-35, so the cable isn't costing a great deal of money.
     
  8. Mike Bertelson

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    He’s right. The FCC ban on exclusive contracts went into effect in Nov ’07.

    http://www.multichannel.com/article/130977-FCC_Bans_Exclusive_MDU_Deals.php

    It was appealed by the National Cable & Telecommunications but the ban was up held.

    http://www.martindale.com/communications-media/article_Davis-Wright-Tremaine-LLP_721838.htm

    IIRC, if there was an existing contract between an HOA and a cable company when the ban went into effect that contract remains in effect (with the exception of the exclusivity clause) until it expires but can’t be renewed as an exclusive contract. I could be wrong about this but it would explain whey some people are still paying the fee.

    Mike
     
  9. MartyS

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    Mike, thanks... I just wanted to see the links for myself, since a lot of folks down here in condos and HOAs are still under contracts that they're paying for each month.

    IN fact, my in-laws up in Chicago, just told me that their HOA is entering a contract with a Sat company (I don't know which one) to provide service to the entire complex of about 700 townhomes. I suspect that it'll be in their maintenance fees, but I'll have to find out more.

    But thanks for the link... that's what I was looking for.

    EDIT....

    Here's what I read... and maybe I'm wrong... but just bear with me....

    If an HOA or MDU contracts with a cable company for service at a fixed price, but doesn't exclude the homeowner or resident from contracting with another service provider, would that not meet the letter of the law?

    Reasoning would be that even though they're paying for basic cable service (let's say) in the monthly assessment, if the HOA or condo association doesn't restrict a satellite company from installing and providing service at the homeowner's cost would that contract be a violation of the law?
     
  10. trainman

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    Sherman...
    I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that it would be perfectly fine -- the issue is exclusive contracts, where the HOA won't allow another provider to offer service, period.

    I lived in an apartment complex like that from 1999-2000: the complex had an exclusive contract with a private company to provide cable service, and wouldn't allow the local franchised cable company in. Which means residents didn't have the option to see, for example, city council meetings -- that's the kind of thing that piques the FCC's interest.
     
  11. MartyS

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    That's the way I read it too, Jim... If it's not EXCLUSIVE it's not a problem.
     
  12. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Do you know if that applies to town-ships setting exclusive rights to a town? I don't like that since there is better services for ethernet out there and I am relegated (or I think I am) to two poor choices.
     
  13. MartyS

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    Smiddy, I'm pretty sure that this doesn't affect cable "franchises". City's have always negotiated and settled on a single company to provide service to that city or county (or whatever governmental entity they're dealing with).
     
  14. smiddy

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    Yeah, that kind of defeats the competitive edge within a city doesn't it. I'm not sure I like it...
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    That's begining to change. We have towns around me that have up to four choices...Comcast, MetroCast, Uverse, Thames Valley Communications(this one is run by the City of Groton).

    Mike
     
  16. JeffBowser

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    Nice thread! I too am always on the edge of leaving DirecTV. It happens every time I have to contact them. However, this forum has left me capable of doing most of my own work, and I simply don't watch so much TV that minor and/or transient tech issues bother me. Therefore, since DirecTV is best of avail providers in my area, I simply do everything humanly possible to avoid contact with them, and I can keep my anger at their asinine mgmt policies at a low simmer instead of a boil. I do wish, however, that folks weren't so "cliquish" up here, "fanboys" and "fanboy"-haters alike (and I do hate that word fanboy.....) It can be intimidating to new members and low count posters alike.
     
  17. mike7

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    Yeah, I just had D*tv out last week to replace a faulty HD DVR receiver and had a sloppy technician that knew far less about what he was doing than he should have known. Of course he works for a contractor that installs for D*tv, so I called D*tv to report the situation and they had the supervisor of the install contractor call me within the hour to explain the situation, which I did and he acknowledged that they had just hired some new people and not all of them had time be fully trained, etc. I completely get it being a business owner myself, sometimes we are forced to use under-trained personnel when we would like to have only the best people available for every single job, it just does not always work that way. I have been with D* for 15 years and am not leaving anytime soon. I have Comcast cable internet service, (previously had cabletv and phone with them as well, but never canceled D*) and don't like their equipment, quality, programming, etc. and find their CS lacks a lot to be desired, but their install technicians are the absolute worst!
     
  18. Xsabresx

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    Sadly it is getting that way with every company. Seems anymore that every company I deal with I do everything I can to avoid actually talking to their customer service.
     
  19. MartyS

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    I was referring to cable companies... and it looks like you have several in your area which is good. I didn't include Uverse, because that's more on the line of satellite, where AT&T is using existing phone systems to provide services, unlike cable companies that have to string some form of wire or fibre to get the signals to the homes.

    In that case they're making a significant investment, so the "franchise" model works for most cities. That said, I would not be surprised if they're forced to "lease" their lines to other companies, ala the telcos that had been forced to do so in the past.
     
  20. Mike Bertelson

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    I wonder if Uverse should be considered the same as cable. It’s definitely competition to cable and unlike satellite there is no additional infrastructure or equipment to install outside the house. The only difference is that it uses phone lines and not coax. :shrug:

    One thing to note is that Thames Valley is run by the Groton Utilities. There seems to be more and more municipalities that are getting into broadband and cable TV. When we had Century Communications for cable (the only cable company in CT to ever lose their license from the Public Utilities Commission) the City of Norwich was considering getting into cable TV. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues.

    Mike
     

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