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Goodbye, Cursive?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Nick, Oct 8, 2012.

Should cursive writing continue to be taught in schools?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not sure

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    40.0%
  1. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

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    I think I'll stick to clothing. The ones you don't want to see would out weigh the ones you would.

    I think parents, and school boards, decide this. We need to identify when something is out of synch and needs to be changed. I think that if someone went into a field of study where cursive could be relevant that it would be a good elective for them.

    At this point though even if they spent a total of 30 hours, 1 a day for 30 days, that's still time that could be used to do something else. I don't know what grade year you're talking about so I can't comment on if they were beneficial or not. If you're talking k-5 then it was probably fun time to break up the day. If it was 6-12 then I can't reply as I was never required to take music, or art without it being an elective.

    Again I boil this down to evolution. Some would say we're becoming less educated but I disagree. Do you focus more on how the message is delivered than what the content is? If so then you miss the point. There are extremes of course but overall even people who are "educated" usually mess up punctuation due to the complexities of the rules and the changes that have happened over the years. People with a master's degree in English from the 70's is using different phrasing and terminology than today.


    You're a professional so it's going to be a matter of pride for you. That's to be expected. Much like the person who owns a landscaping company usually shows his talents in his lawn. People who don't pay attention won't care anyways. Every person will be different and take a sense in pride in their work just like in the past. Some people cared about their handwriting legibility and other's didn't. This is the same thing and it's the level of interest the person has that will dictate it not the tools.


    That's good stuff right there.

    Nope not at all even re-reading that made me cringe.

    This happens more than you probably realize every year. It's almost scare what gets changed but what is scarier is the why.


    I'm not that imaginative but I cannot thing of a situation where the ability to use cursive would save ones life. Learning how to navigate without GPS can easily do so. If one day we no longer have the need to move around manually then perhaps this conversation will come up at that time for navigation.

    With that said I can understand the argument and I think the difference here is that cursive will never go away. It will just be taught only when it's a relevant need of a course study.

    I don't think it will ever stopped being taught. I think it will go into an elective type class. I could see it being taught in upper history and English classes so that you could read the items in cursive without having them translated to print.

    At the end of the day I'd rather have my kids have that time used to reinforce or learn something else. Even if it's a small % of the time it's still something else that I feel would help them through out the rest of their education.
     
  2. James Long

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    How dare you attack plump Americans! A fat joke? Really? ;)
     
  3. Shades228

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    This is kind of like when your wife asks you if something makes her look ugly. Best thing to do is feign a seizure and change topic.
     
  4. AntAltMike

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    In the spring of 1963, a good friend of mine finished second in his age group in the state spelling bee. The word he got wrong was unknown to him and to his competitor, so they went back and forth half a dozen times before she finally guessed the correct spelling.

    The word that had not yet become in common usage and was totally unknown to them and to most people in that era was "knoll".
     
  5. James Long

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    Following the fall of 1963 the entire country learned what a knoll was as people discussed the grassy knoll in Dallas.
     
  6. trh

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    Just saw a related commercial for Ragu. (too busy reading threads here and I forgot the 30SKIP)

    Little girl comes walking up to the kitchen table where a couple of other kids are sitting, complaining that "Not even my cursive teacher writes in cursive".

    She then holds up her school paper with a big red F printed at the top.
     
  7. kevinturcotte

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    How long should stuff be taught after it becomes obsolete, or not necessarily obsolete, but nobody uses it anymore? Would you want to go to a class teaching you how to use a rotary phone, typewriters, or VCRs? With VCRs, tapes are still around, and will continue to be around, but almost nobody uses them. They watch the same thing on DVDs and Blu-Rays. There is ZERO reason that stuff written in cursive couldn't be converted to printing. And look at Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Both have plus and minuses, so you can't outright say one is better than the other, but do you see many HD DVDs anymore?
     
  8. Stewart Vernon

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    I would have a bigger problem if the school was teaching how to operate a DVD player...

    Typing classes, even on a typewriter, would still be valid today too... my computer keyboard sure is pretty similar to a typewriter keyboard after all.

    It still bears bringing up too... how are you going to sign your name if you don't learn cursive? Printing generally is not accepted for documents that require a signature... so, umm, without teaching cursive to kids where are they going to learn how to read and sign signatures?
     
  9. jdskycaster

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    ^Same as learning your address through memorization. Just teach kids how to sign their name and be done with it. Electronic signatures and biometrics will soon become the norm. Even signing your name will become obsolete.
     
  10. James Long

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    I learned VCRs because I helped operate the AV equipment at school. Before the VCR I helped run the film projectors. I also learned how to operate a mimeograph at school (a form of copy machine, for the younger readers).

    Perhaps diction classes (how to speak clearly) would be more appropriate for the future as we move into a world where the computer listening to us for instructions is more common? (Siri, where can I buy an Android phone?)

    Read isn't an issue ... as long as it somewhat matches the scribble on the back of the credit card you can buy stuff and first initial plus scribble for each part of one's name as been acceptable as a signature for many years.

    Not everyone's John Han**** looks like John Han****'s.

    Edit: Perhaps we need to fix the word filter ...
     
  11. MysteryMan

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    +1 on fixing the word filter.
     
  12. Laxguy

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    Agree on both. The word filter makes one of our revered forefathers look like a dirty term. I won't even try to write the word for a male pheasant.....
     
  13. Stewart Vernon

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    Probably worth noting... the word filter is a close cousin to spell-check... you know, that thing some people like instead of doing things yourself...

    Spell-check sometimes changes words too... imagine a day when spell-check is mandatory just like the word filter... and your posts are not what you intended them to be.
     
  14. Nick

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    Article: Some states move to save cursive in the classroom
    "...cursive conveys intelligence and grace, engages creativity and builds brain cells."

    msn.com
     
  15. Laxguy

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    I thought Wonder Bread did all that, in addition to the obvious body building it clearly promotes....
     
  16. fluffybear

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    It is going to be hard to save as long as schools continue the drive to be 100% digital. The school in my neighborhood has been a pilot school for 'Bring Your Own Technology' to school for the last couple of years. Children beginning in 2nd grade have been allowed to do the majority of their school work digitally. Recently it was announced that next year while every school (at least in this district) will adopt the BYOT program, our neighborhood school will go 100% digital (beginning with 3rd grade).
     
  17. Stewart Vernon

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    Touch-screen and graphic tablet interfaces still provide handwriting recognition... so no reason cursive writing can't still be taught on digital equipment.
     
  18. fluffybear

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    As much as I am a supporter of cursive in the school system and will require all 3 of my kids to learn it (even if I teach it myself at home), I just don't see a school system willing to teach cursive if they go 100% digital that is unless they are either going to loan every child the same exact item or make it a requirement they all own the same item in order to attend school.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    But... that is already (presumably) a function of going digital, isn't it? They would have to be ensuring that all the students had access to compatible equipment... Some schools have been providing equipment, while others give a list of compatible equipment for you to supply on your own... that's really no different than requiring a #2 pencil or something specific... IF they go digital, they already will have to ensure the students have the same or compatible equipment.
     
  20. fluffybear

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    From what I am seeing, the only real requirement is that your equipment have wi-fi capability and a web browser. 3rd party sites such as Google Drive, Edmodo, Scholastic, and Spelling City really don't care what your OS is so as long as they plan to use external sites that can be accessed from home (for things such homework, turning in assignments, etc.) they will have to make those requirements very generic and broad.
    Let's keep in mind that the school may require you to have a #2 pencil but do not go as far as to say that it must be a Dixon red #2 pencil.
     

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