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Goodbye DirecTV :.(

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by jordanzimmerman, Aug 6, 2007.

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  1. luckydob

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    Last time I checked...you just said, "HBO". Either way...there are channels on DTV that are not on Comcast as well. Hallmark Movie Channel is a mainstream channel??? Okay, then what about HDNET? HDNET Movies? Are those on Comcast? What about the Big Ten Network? What about NFL Network in HD? Oh and what about the Sunday Ticket, NASCAR Hot Pass...the list goes on. :grin:
     
  2. sgnhaf

    sgnhaf Duplicate User (Account Closed)

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    never said HD, those above are SD channels.

    yes Hallmark Movie Channel is a mainstream channel, after all I do belive Hallmark is a mainstram brand & further family friendly movies is mainstream (after all cause families are mainstream)
     
  3. luckydob

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    What about Big Ten? NFL? HDNET? You pick an arbitrary list of channels, and so do I. It proves nothing other than each carry different channels. I'll let everyone else decide what is more mainstream. Hallmark channel or The Big Ten Network.
     
  4. sgnhaf

    sgnhaf Duplicate User (Account Closed)

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    I was listing SD channels .... not HD ....... HD is not the discussion

    The channels I listed are not arbitrary, they are mainstream channels that are lacking on DirecTV as of now. and why all the bickering and defensiveness ?
     
  5. luckydob

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    Big Ten is not HD only...and why would HD not be in the discussion? For now, Comcast has more channels...for now. I'm just proving that you are taking information and twisting it. I too can twist and turn it to paint Comcast negatively. 6 in one and a half dozen in the other. NFL Network is not HD only either. Both are MISSING from Comcast.
     
  6. sgnhaf

    sgnhaf Duplicate User (Account Closed)

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    I said cable, I never mentioned any particular cable company.

    Anyway BIG 10 is coming to cable this fall.......

    I am not twisting anything.

    Listing channels DirecTV channels does not carry in SD and most cable companies do.

    I know it as they claim do to capacity. But they need to fix that. as well as Dish as well.

    We are only discussing SD because HD is not expanded yet, When Directv lacks alot of HD channels (like only a few of HBO.. IF THAT HAPPENS) then we can discuss that then
     
  7. jordanzimmerman

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    FYI

    * I'm holding on to D* for a while. I have it upstairs. So, if Comcast is really Comcrap, I'll keep D*

    * I would love to try the HR20, but I don't want to make a 2 frickin year commitment!!! This was the last straw for me. If not for that, I'd probably stay with D*.

    * The Tivo HD has some incredible features that will probably mitigate any shortcomings of Comcast: Online scheduling, multi-room viewing, downloadable movies
     
  8. bidger

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    Well, you have to make a commitment to TiVo and if you're making monthly payments, it affects the rate you pay, i.e.- the three year plan will be the cheapest. If the TiVo goes South, it comes out of your pocket and the fact that it doesn't work won't get you out of the commitment. So, the idea that the commitment is a big deal swings both ways.

    Frankly, after six and a half years of using TiVo, both standalone and DIRECTV-integrated, I no longer find TiVo to be the shizznit. But, if you do, you're probably doing what's best for you.
     
  9. Capmeister

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    This is why I said "the channels you want." Cable has some different channels, but DirecTV has the channels I want, so I'm not really concerned about Nick GaS or HBO Comedy. And I'm pretty sure D* has Hallmark. Channel 3-something? I don't know--I don't really watch it.
     
  10. uncrules

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    Hallmark is on channel 312.
     
  11. man_rob

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    You say you've been with D* for 12 years, and now you don't want to have a 2 year commitment? (I guess this is in addition to the TiVo issue you first mentioned?)

    I like my Tivo. It's still upstairs in my bedroom, but I also like my HR20. I got it a few months ago, and while it's different, I have been very happy with it as well. I waited to get it, and thankfully D* had the major bugs worked out of it by that time. IMHO, D* can be faulted for releasing it too soon, but they have been working diligently to improve it.

    If the two year commitment is the deal breaker for you, then that is your choice. Luckily there is competition, and you have a choice. D* and TiVo are still supporting the D*TiVos, (soon the HR10 will be SD only though) and while it's a slight possibility that a new mpeg4 D*TiVo might make an appearance, I doubt it would happen in the next 2 years. Look how long it's taken them to get the Comcast TiVo to market, and it's still not ready.

    You're going to spend $300 on an HD TiVo, (for the stripped model, that can only record 20 hours of HD, is already obsolete on newer cable systems, and also has a commitment, with a $12 monthly fee above the cost of your cable.) or you can commit to two years of D* (which you say you've had for 12 years already.) and get a HR 20 for about $20, with a $6 monthly fee.

     
  12. BigCTM

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    I was in the exact same boat and almost went with Comcast also. However I stayed with DirecTV and had my HD upgrade done yesterday. I can tell you that the R20 is very simple to use. This is coming from a TIVO user. Yes it's different at first but I like it alot considering I just got it yesterday. I hesitated because of the 2 year commitment but DirecTV has always given me great deals on upgrades - free equipment and free programming. The reasons I avoided ComCrap are the following:

    1. Their customer service is HORRIBLE, at least in my area. My mom has Comcast and she lost reception. It took them 7 days to get to her house.

    2. My local Comcast does not even hardly know what TIVO is, much less how to install the cable cards. They even said that they could not install the cable cards on a TIVO box because all the new cable boxes have the cards built into them. Totally clueless! Good luck on getting the TIVO box installed correctly.

     
  13. chopperjc

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    I personally would never drop DirectV for cable. If I hear you right it is all about Tivo. I like my Tivo and think it is a great product. My HR20 is getting there. In truth if it had DLB it would be a better box than Tivo. I have learned to adapt. Why am I adapting and not changing? The service of course. I receive more of what I want. In my case sports is my number 1 priority along with HD. DirectV has more value for me. DLB although important is certainly not even close to a deal breaker. We all have to decide on what we value. Good luck with Comcast.
     
  14. msmith198025

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    Last I heard, Big 10 and cable companies havent reached an agreement. So unless that has changed no luck in the fall
     
  15. TimeShifter

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    Maybe I'm not well enough informed about the technology. But, with cable companies starting to roll out Switched Digital Video, I would be really hesitant to jump on board with a CableCard-based TiVo box.

    Aren't you possibly putting yourself in the same situation where you're going to have a bunch of channels that won't be available to you if your cable system switches to SDV?
     
  16. CPanther95

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    That only dealt with maintaining services of existing boxes in the field.
     
  17. fudpucker

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    FWIW - I just moved to Kansas City from the Chicago area, and considered moving to digital cable/cable DVR (Time Warner here) after being with DTV since 1995. Reasoning: no dish needed, no worry about weather fade/getting snow off the dish, getting the local information channels (for local city announcements, school info, etc.), nice channel selection. I ended up staying with DTV for several reasons:

    1. The cable people I talked with were totally obnoxious and lied to me. Trying to get a price for the channel line-up I wanted without a "special bundle" of telephone, etc. was like pulling teeth. Even now, I don't know what the price for the cable service would be after my special one year introductory price would expire. They also lied about DVRs (they assumed I didn't know anything) and more.
    2. Looking at the digital cable at my neighbors, it was obvious many of the channels aren't really digital - picture was noticeably worse on many channels than what I'm used to and take for granted with D*.
    3. D* made me a great offer to stay - 2 new free HR-20s, HD package for free for a year, etc.
    4. The HD package once the new satellite is brought on-line is going to be pretty amazing.
    5. Comfort factor - I've had D* for many years and have always been happy with the channel line-up, the new channels added, the options for things like the NFL package, the crisp clear picture, and the tech support (yeah, sometimes I had to call back or get bumped to a higher level tech, but they always fixed the problem and treated me like I was a priority for them.)

    I imagine I'd be happy with the switch to cable if forced to go that way, but I know I'm happy with D* (I'm even getting used to the HR-20 after years of being a Tivo fanatic!) so why take the risk of the change?
     
  18. jordanzimmerman

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    For me, I'm stuck between the "I love Tivo" rock and the "I love DirecTV" hard-place. My working assumption is that Comcast is closer to DirecTV than the HR20 is to Tivo. Indeed, the DirecTivo box I've been using pales to the new Tivo HD.

    What SHOULD have happened is that the suits at D* years ago kept the Tivo relationship strong resulting in DirecTV with Tivo being head and shoulders above anything else. Oh well...
     
  19. bidger

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    Well, that's your opinion. Mine is that TiVo isn't that big a deal. It's a good DVR platform, but I've found that it's not the only solution. My priorities are programming and price first and DIRECTV still beats cable as far as my needs are concerned. Now if and when FIOS is an option for me, all bets are off the table.
     
  20. man_rob

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    It just seems like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. You're going to have to put out a lot of cash just to get started with an HD TiVo, then you're going to pay a lot more a month in cable/TiVo fees for fewer channels. For all that, you'll still have a commitment for the TiVo subscription, which means, unless you plan on using it as an OTA box, you'll be locked into cable to use the TiVo. That'll teach D* a lesson.
     
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