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Google, NFL meeting reportedly includes Sunday Ticket discussions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Aug 25, 2013 #81 of 133
    Bambler

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    Well, I wouldn't know for sure what are the precise hurdles for a cable system, such as Comcast, would have to deal with, I'm sure there are many as you pointed out. But if given the chance, I doubt they wouldn't find a way to carry these channels a few hours a week, even if it means going dark on something else for those few hours.

    If it was thrown in their laps, they would make it work.
     
  2. Aug 25, 2013 #82 of 133
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    That's the thing Comcast is HUGE, but no two systems are the same when it comes to where they are when it comes to bandwidth and capacity. You have systems that went all digital, then you have systems they got as part of a larger purchase of a smaller provider, who probably did care about the area since they were locally owned and operated, but now that Comcast has it, it has long been neglected in favor of upgrades in major and large markets, some of which don't even have HD or even digital.

    As for taking channels off air, you can't do that without writing it in the contract. Some channels like the scrolling guide (if they still have one), C-SPAN, religious and public access channels are taken down in favor of sports overflow on some cable systems, but those are usually analog channels so it wouldn't help with something like Sunday Ticket.


    Really though, if the NFL wants to get more subscribers for Sunday Ticket what they should do is stop NBC, ESPN and NFL Network from choosing the most popular teams several weeks in a row. Right now it's mostly the bars, hardcore fans and fantasy football players who want every game, along with hardcore fans of a team who live in a division rival's home market or who live in another part of the country and can't get by on just the times their team is chosen for one of the national games or when there's no conflict with the local team's game. Imagine how many more subscribers they would get if they blocked the national rights holders from picking "America's" team any chance they got. Institute a policy where if NBC, ESPN or NFL Network pick a game, the following week those teams must air on Fox or CBS, along with a policy where if Fox or CBS choose a game for their "national" 4pm game, those teams must play at 1pm the following week if they're on Fox or CBS.
     
  3. Aug 25, 2013 #83 of 133
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    I seethe following scenarios as plausible from a technical standpoint.

    DIRECTV keeps it alone

    Google or some other streaming company gets it alone

    DIRECTV and a streaming company get it together


    Everyone gets it an I mean open to everyone. Any other option is a non started IMHO due to coverage ability and bandwidth etc.

    And ill bet the nfl shoots for dtv and a streamer. Dtv has a lot of bargaining power in this because any options other than the ones I listed would be devastating for bars etc which the nfl won't want to leave. DIRECTV is by far the easiest platform and adding a streamer would widen the reach without hurting the existing base but also not widen it to much at this time.


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  4. Aug 25, 2013 #84 of 133
    Laxguy

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    Bandwidth is a much bigger problem for cable than satellite, year 'round.
     
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  6. Aug 25, 2013 #86 of 133
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    Not really trying to make a prediction just eluding to the fact that there are now multiple major suitors (Microsoft, Apple, Intel, DTV, Amazon, etc) calling on the NFL for contract rights. Looking at this from the perspective of the NFL the goal should be to reach the largest market possible while increasing their revenue. One way to do this is to get rid of exclusivity and offer it to multiple players at some discount below the $1B that they currently receive. The total for three (or more) outlets with rights could easily double total revenues for the NFL while reaching the largest possible audience.

    Again, not saying they will necessarily do this just but it is now an option given today's provider landscape compared to when they inked the deal with Direc the first time. For me it would be awesome to have the option to purchase single in or out of market games on Amazon VOD. Does not even have to be streamed live. Just make them available immediately after they are done being played. I would gladly pay for that service. I personally do not have time to watch, nor do I even care to watch all of the games every week. Just a select few and on my schedule not the networks.
     
  7. Aug 26, 2013 #87 of 133
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    As I had said before the NFL didn't become a billion dollar business by sitting back and being "dumb." They let it be known they were meeting with Google to get other companies in the mix (Microsoft, Amazon, Yahoo, Apple, Netflix?, Facebook?). Companies like Google and Apple are known to be sitting on loads of cash that I am sure the NFL would love to get their hands on that some of that cash. Word leaked out a week ago about the meeting between Google and the NFL, since then we have heard many other companies try to get their name into the mix as well.

    As a DirecTV customer I also wonder if the NFL is floating these ideas out there after seeing the latest response from DirecTV in regards sports and the rights fees going up and up. The NFL knows that customers will leave one service provider for another just so they can watch the NFL games. The hard part for me is to see Comcast or other cable companies get into the mix because their bandwidth issues. Now maybe in two years that won't be an issue if they work in new technologies. It will be interesting over the next two years (probably the next year). As other's have mentioned will the two items be split up (TV rights and internet rights)? Will a new company come in and change it all? Will this all be "talk" and in the end DirecTV meets the demands of the NFL?
     
  8. Aug 26, 2013 #88 of 133
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    I bet that would depend on price. If it was cheaper online, I could see people jumping to it and leaving the DirecTV Sunday Ticket version.
     
  9. Aug 26, 2013 #89 of 133
    joshjr

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    I am not sure Cable is a viable option unless it is available to all cable providers. There is no Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon or Cox cable in my area. We have CableOne, Dish or DirecTV.
     
  10. Aug 26, 2013 #90 of 133
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    Sure, but many? You know there are some/many/most who will not watch stuff streaming unless it's the only option, regardless of how much cheaper it may be. Now, when you get true HD streaming on a lot of sets, things could change.
     
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    I bet that would depend on price. If it was cheaper online, I could see people jumping to it and leaving the DirecTV Sunday Ticket version.


    Oh I think all providers if there ever is more than one will have the same list price to consumers. What they charge might vary, somewhat like DIRECTV but a streamer? Nope, it'd just be whatever the price was set at. There'd be no discounting. You don't ever see MLB discounted for streaming do you?


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  12. Aug 26, 2013 #92 of 133
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    From my perspective cost is nowhere near the top of my list. What I would really like to see are more choices and greater access. All we have today is one option and one option only that entails trading off one providers warts for another providers warts. I should not have to forklift all the infrastructure in my home just to have access to programming. This is a stone age mentality in today's connected world.
     
  13. Aug 26, 2013 #93 of 133
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    Yes I do but price is not the main factor on the MLB.TV. To me it is the ability to watch the games out and about instead of just where there is a WIFI connection.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2013 #94 of 133
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    Just a guess here, but it may not be Comcast that would bid on it but more likely inDemand who handles sports packages and movies for TWC, Comcast, Brighthouse, and Cox among others.
     
  15. Aug 26, 2013 #95 of 133
    joshjr

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    That is what I was getting at.
     
  16. Aug 27, 2013 #96 of 133
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    Maybe Dish is secretly planning to outbid DTV for Sunday ticket. I can dream can't I? Didn't Warren Buffet just invest a bunch of $$$ into Dish.
     
  17. Aug 27, 2013 #97 of 133
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    If I were DirecTV the 3 companies that'd most worry me are Google, Apple, and Comcast/NBC all three companies are rumored to have plenty of cash on hand to make a big move or moves. I know the Comcast deal would be bigger than just Comcast; but I am guessing Comcast would be the funding for the other cableco's to take the big carrot away from DirecTV.
     
  18. Aug 27, 2013 #98 of 133
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    I hope they do it. Change is good.


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  19. Aug 27, 2013 #99 of 133
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    and if they do they better have full time RSN HD pick up all HD alt feeds and pick up the NY RSN's.
     
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    seeing how badly Comcast failed at showing Premier-League-Extra-Time useing VOD the NFL better force them to make it work right.

    apple / Google killer is bandwidth even cable (tv side can hit that). Also lot's areas where you can get directv pulling down 8+ live feeds on the same time on IP?? or even cables QAM (part time feeds) some cable systems don't have HD or even digital cable.
     

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