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Google TV for Dish $179 confirmed

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by davidmg1, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Maybe they have legal deals with sites like Hulu.
     
  2. GrumpyBear

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    Hulu is a joint Venture between ABC, FOX and NBC. No reason Hulu should block the Google TV from having access to anything a laptop has access too. Let the user decide if Hulu plus service is what they want.
    ABC and FOX, are also blocking thier individual websites, not just Hulu. Yet both allow laptop users to have access. Sorry it is all about greed. ABC and FOX, have already stated and the deal is in the works, that they will open thier sites, as soon as Googletv forces all users to pay for Hulu plus service. What a crock.
     
  3. Davenlr

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    Seems to me they are blocking it to prevent Dish subs from being able to watch it.
     
  4. 356B

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    This is probably just a coincidence :grin: but Dish Online has not had any TV listings available for several weeks. The movies and rentals appear to be intact. :money: I always wonder about things that run together.....even if it's a stretch. When clicking on "TV Listings" you get (we know about the problems) message.:lol: !pepsi!

    It's most likely a "beta" thing......:scratch:


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  5. olguy

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    I just logged on to dishonline.com and I got TV listings out to next Friday. I don't remember ever having a problem with the listings. Problems logging on in the past, yes. But those seem to have been fixed.
     
  6. HobbyTalk

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    I would suspect they do not want Google to get a foot in the door to squeezing their advertising dollars.
     
  7. GrumpyBear

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    Your funnny.

    Has nothing to do with Dish Subs, they are blocking GoogleTV, from all users. Lots of people paying full price for GoogleTV, right now with no subcription fee's that have nothing to do with being a Dish Sub.
     
  8. sigma1914

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    Add CBS to your list of greed. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69K5QS20101022

     
  9. 356B

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    Not for me.......we are talking about this place.......? :scratch: http://beta.dishonline.com/
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    update: sorry for the bother, just this hour started loading TV listings :icon_da:.......go figure.......!pepsi!

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  10. phrelin

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    Networks blocking Google TV. Google didn't work these things out before introducing Google TV? My, my.:nono2:

    And I suppose they'll want your ISP to let you and your 20,000 closest friends stream content at no extra cost through your town and state clogging things up for other people.

    Yep, that's a real good technology. Don't pay for the content and don't pay for the delivery service. Good plan if you can get away with it.:rolleyes:
     
  11. HobbyTalk

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    What difference does it matter what browser you use to view the free content? All GoogleTV is a glorified browser and all the content you are accessing is free and available when viewing with a PC or Mac.
     
  12. James Long

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    Do you still see ALL of the advertising connected with viewing the program via a "normal" web browser? Or is GoogleTV working around the site's ads (more than running an ad block in your standard browser would do)?
     
  13. HobbyTalk

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    Don't know since I don't have GoogleTV. Most likely no one will know since it is now blocked ;) I suspect the commercials within the videos are still there. Does Firefox with AdBlocker block the ads on Hulu? If so will they start blocking Firefox users since you can hook a computer to a TV?

    In the end, it is OK. If Hulu continues to do this type of thing (which it has a history of doing) it will go the way the vast majority of record industry run media web sites.... extinct.

    We've already seen what competition has done. Hulu has lowered the price of their "plus" service to $5 per month since GoogleTV has come out. Or that could be just because no one was buying in at $10 per month since Netflix is cheaper. If Hulu wants to sell subscriptions they have to allow access from these settop boxes.... just look at what Netflix has done, they are everywhere and is the dominant player.
     
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  15. James Long

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    I run a browser based blocker that does well taking out banner ads and such ... and on some sites it takes out the video content as well. If the blocker thinks it is an advertisement it gets blocked - even if it is the content the user wants.

    I don't know what I'm missing most of the time ... but occasionally I'll come across a blog that has embedded video missing. I have to turn off the blocker or change it's settings to see the content.

    The trouble with Google is they are too smart. Their "browser" can work around blockers without user interaction. In my opinion, one would have a better chance of seeing the content and not all of the advertising via the GoogleTV browser.
     
  16. olguy

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    The Logitech Revue uses Google's Chrome browser. You can not install apps such as Adblock in it on the Revue. Yet. I just watched an episode of Chase on NBC.com and it was just like watching on my PC or lap top as far as controls are concerned. The little 30 second commercials occasionally that you can't FF through but mute works :p You can go full screen like on a computer as you would expect. And the Revue does up convert. I have mine set for 1080p and that's what the Mits info button tells me I'm getting. From any and all sources including my 922.

    I also watched a bit of Good Guys on Fox.com.

    ABC gave me a message "the platform you are using is not supported".

    I also watched a bit of Blue Bloods on CBS.

    So in summary CBS, Fox and NBC aren't blocking the Revue. At least this morning. Hulu and ABC are blocking the Revue.

    I just got mine set up and haven't fully explored it yet. But so far I'm thinking I'm happy. It acts like a very basic remote for the 922. It has a DVR button and all the transport keys. It lacks a 30 sec skip, 10 second go back and a mute button. And after this short period of time I'm not sure I will ever pay the $4 integration fee if Dish ever gets it for the 922. I'll have to go read what it does again to decide if I'm missing something snappy :p
     
  17. James Long

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    If it is just a normal browser (one that you could view any site on the web through) blocking it seems like just another money grab.

    Then again, if it is standard Chrome some people have a problem viewing sites with Chrome regardless of GoogleTV.
     
  18. SaltiDawg

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    I believe it was reported in The Washington Post this AM that Fox realized the error of their ways wrt blocking HULU.
     
  19. GrumpyBear

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    Thats the entire point. Why block a device, and the Logitech Revue broadcasts itself as a Revue, so those that want to block GoogleTV just block those devices from connecting.
    Its perfectly ok to use a PC, and watch the websites. Its perfectly ok to use a cable to connect your PC to your TV to watch the websites, but its WRONG to use stripped down PC, to watch those same websites, as the device makes it to easy to view on your TV.

    Granted to ABC and Fox's credit when they 1st started blocking GoogleTV devices, they were worried that the GoogleTV would allow users to see shows on any site, both legal and those pirated. Granted even worried about piracy issues, both agreed that if GoogleTV's forced users to pay for HULU, they would end the blocking. Sorry thats just a crock, and a huge money grab.
     
  20. olguy

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    Hulu works fine in Chrome on my "real" computers :lol: When you try it on the Revue you get a message about trying to watch on Google TV. At first Hulu checked the browser User Agent and as soon as someone found a cure to that they started checking via Flash someway. You can view Hulu on Google TV if you have a Hulu Plus account. But at $5 the $9 Netflix is a better deal.
    I don't know about Fox blocking Hulu. I do know I can watch Fox but not Hulu on the Revue.

    I'm really at a loss as to why they, Hulu and ABC would block one method of getting their streams on my big screen but not all methods. Could it be Google's ad revenue has them a bit upset and they want to share in it?

    Afterthought: This site isn't playing well with the dumbed down Chrome on the Revue either. Every time I try it the browser gets tired of waiting for everything to load and I have to get out. But that's okay because I really never planned on surfin' the w3bz, emailing, etc on my big screen. So the Revue works fine for what I'm interested in.
     

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