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got my hr-24 today. no hd?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by durian, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. matt

    matt New Member

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    Because they are designed to be used with the top of the line setup, not the legacy stuff :) Why spend the extra money for wide band tuners when a large chunk of where the Hx24s seem to be going is SWM installs?
     
  2. durian

    durian Mentor

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    so, the swm is superior to the legacy setup? i only subscribed a year ago, i wonder why the swm technology was not installed in the first place?
     
  3. john18

    john18 Active Member

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    I believe that SWiM technology wasn't openly publicly available a year ago.
     
  4. Dradran

    Dradran AllStar

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    My system was installed last July and I received SWiM install.

    YMMV
     
  5. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    SWiM technology has been widely available for well over two years in the form of the SWM8. The SWMLine dishes started being installed in 5+ tuner all SWiM setups in May 2008.
     
  6. The Merg

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    And as of spring this year, DirecTV started using SWiM installs for all new installations.

    - Merg
     
  7. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    I think it might have started as early as last November, but yes .. all new installs are SWiM.

    There are multiple advantages to SWiM (to answer the OPs question):

    -) Single wire, installation time is decreased and existing (cable TV or other) infrastructure can be utilized.

    -) For typical installation (8 or less tuners), the SWiM is built into the LNB .. single wire from the LNB (dish) to central splitter.

    -) Multi-Room Viewing via DECA works on SWiM setups - no additional cabling required

    The biggest advantage is in installation and troubleshooting (down the line). There is no reason to undo an existing installation until changes are warranted. At that point, switching to SWiM is a prudent decision.
     
  8. RACJ2

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    The advantages of SWiM are that as you add DVR's, you only need one cable to run the 2 tuners of that DVR. Also, you can use advanced features such as MRV aka Whole Home DVR. On a side note, if you have HR24's, you won't need any DECA modules for them, when you upgrade to MRV.
     
  9. TheRatPatrol

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    Interesting, I have two friends that got the old round single LNB dishes installed within the last year, one was a movers connection into a house, and the other for NFLST.

    If what you say is true, I would think it would make more sense to just install 3LNB dishes on every install (along with H/HR's, do away with SD equipment altogether) so that if someone does want to upgrade to HD in the future, they wouldn't have to send a tech to swap things out.

    I didn't think they were installing the old round dishes anymore?

    Ok sorry to get off topic.
     
  10. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Well, "within last year" would have to be post-November and it is possible that my statement only applies to "advanced" installs .. meaning HD receiver/DVR required.
     
  11. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    The correct statement would be all new HD installs (regardless of the number of tuenrs) should get a SWiM. Non-HD installs, still get a legacy setup.
     
  12. TheRatPatrol

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    Which is really surprising, I thought they were trying to "future proof" all installs now.
     
  13. durian

    durian Mentor

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    yeah, i was installed a slimline dish in may 2009, w/ an hd dvr, then added a second hd dvr a couple months later. if the SWiM was available then, i wonder why i wasn't set up with the new technology? this sucks right now because it is causing me inconvienence w/ my new hr-24's i am trying to install. i'm sure when i call to set up install for whole home dvr soon, this upgrade to SWiM will cost me quite a bit of money.
     
  14. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    The Whole Home DVR service and the Connected Home networking has a "one price to fit all" upgrade [though some have been able to leverage the price] of $99 + service call charge [$49].
    This covers everything you'll need [SWiM conversion and DECAs].
    I think everyone would like to have had everything they "would need" setup the first time even before they knew they would have wanted future services & devices, but it simply wasn't reasonable [cost wise] on DirecTV's side. How much would have been installed that the customer never would have used later?
     
  15. durian

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    that makes sense, but if i understand correctly, since i will have two hr-24's installed by the time i get the whole home dvr, i will not need the DECA, but i am not currently hooked up to internet so i will need the wifi connection kit, right?
     
  16. Dradran

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    I believe all you need to do is hook the HR24 into your router. Now how you do that is up to you. I had powerline adapters from when I first ordered D*. You can also use the WIFI or depending on where the router is in reference to the HR24 you could simply hook a Cat 5 cable into the HR24 directly from the router.
     
  17. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    You won't need DECAs for the 24s, but would still need one to bridge to your home network for internet access, and a SWiM if you don't already have it.
    The "one price fits all" is going to be great for those that need a lot of changes and "not so great" for those that only need a few changes.
     
  18. john18

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    Actually, I was able to get the upgrade for a total of about $76.00. A new antenna and LNB, SWiM and 3 DECA modules.
     
  19. RobertE

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    Future proofing still hasn't crossed that magic cost/benefit threshold yet. A basic 18" ODU with a 3x4 switch is about 1/4 the cost of a SWiM Slimline.
     

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